dangerous game

[sumbirdy]

He's an outside dog and breaks every chain we have. There are no dog parks where i live

[critter crazy]

Can you fence him in??? I had to fence mine in becuse he would break off his chain as well, and i hated him on a chain anyways(even if it was for only 10 mins at a time!) A fenced in yard, would be a safe option f or your dog.

[lisahumphreys882]

My dog chases cars as well so I either have to keep him leashed or in a fenced yard

[finn's mom]

Even if you have to make a leash out of something used for horses, or use chains that are heavy duty...that would be better than your dog getting run over. There are chains out there that are used to haul thousands of pounds, I'm sure you could find something at a home depot or lowe's that your dog couldn't break. Or a lead rope for a horse could work.

[sumbirdy]

Thank you all for your suggestions. I'll try to find a heavy duty chain for when he is on one (I hate to put him on one. He despises them.) Meanwhile we are building a better fence for them (we have several other dogs) The little con artists seem to find a way out of every fence we get.

[Lady's Human]

Instead of a chain, use a wire rope tie out. They are readily available, and hold many times more force than a dog can put out.

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...p?pn=100349311


just a sample of a wire rope run.

[Karen]

The wire ropes also don't tangle as easily, and don't rattle like chains do. I bet he'd get used to it very quickly. And even a frustrated dog is better than a dead one.

Every dog I have known who liked to chase cars was eventually hit by them, with the obvious results. Yet the one Old English Sheepdog mix, who lived up the street from us, safely chased the school bus every day - from the safety of his tie out. He's "chase" the bus from one end of his yard to the other, and be so triumphant when it "ran away"!

[cyber-sibes]

Instead of a chain, use a wire rope tie out. They are readily available, and hold many times more force than a dog can put out.

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...p?pn=100349311


just a sample of a wire rope run.

Unfortunately the wire ropes aren't foolproof. Star has broken 2 of them and Sherman quickly chews them till they frazzle. My experience is that only 6' kennel fencing will keep outdoor dogs safe (provided they don't climb or dig out, or can jump over that height). With as many outdoor dogs as you say you have, I'm really surprised you don't have a fenced kennel. How do the rest of the dogs stay in the yard? Are they all tied?

[Pam]

He's an outside dog

[Twisterdog]

Agreed.

[sumbirdy]

Agreed.

There is nothing wrong with having outside dogs if they have adequate shelter and plenty of food, water, and attention. Which my dogs have all of these. Our house is way too small to bring in 17 dogs and anyway most of them don't like to be inside. We bring in the dogs that like to be inside on occasions and starting this winter we are bringing in our 9 year old dog (who has lived outside all her life) There is absoulutely nothing wrong with them being outside and if you knew my dogs and their personalities you would understand and agree too. They don't want to be anywhere else.

[areias]

Maybe this question has been asked before, but why do you have 17 dogs? And especially why do you have them if they are all outside?

It must get expensive with vet visits, heartguard, etc. I already wish I didn't have my heartguard bill, for three medium sized dogs.

[sumbirdy]

Maybe this question has been asked before, but why do you have 17 dogs? And especially why do you have them if they are all outside?

It must get expensive with vet visits, heartguard, etc. I already wish I didn't have my heartguard bill, for three medium sized dogs.

We have 17 dogs because mom has a habit of picking up strays. The vet bills are very expensive but fortunately we have a vet that lets us make payments. About them being outside-well, they like it there. They would rather be outside more than anywhere else. Tiny, Nitis, and Lacy stay inside. Whino, Daphney and Uno are the only outside dogs that like to come in so they come in regularly. So not ALL of them are outside. Sprinkles comes in at night because she is older (almost 9) and gets cold easily but she really hates it.

[lwds]

There is nothing wrong with having outside dogs if they have adequate shelter and plenty of food, water, and attention.

What about confinement? Secure fencing/kennels?

[Argranade]

Maybe Sumbirdy feels if her dogs want to stay outside then they can, all animals started out wild and in freedom in the begining of time, when I go to native resurves there are so many dogs outside running around ... they have a place to sleep at night ... I dunno but for some reason it does not bother me.

If the dog did not have lots of fur then it would HAVE to live in the house.

Yes I do belive if there's no way to secure them they should be adopted out so they don't get hit by cars but it's not hard at all to buil a simple fence this way Sumbirdy will know all the dogs are safe and secure.

At least there not at a pound and they have a home where they can get food and water and won't have a chance of being killed by being stray or getting into a fight with other nabour hood dogs.

A fence is a realy good option Sumbirdy, it would keep the dogs from getting hit of course.

I know you have a great feeling for these dogs and want to help them as much as you can.

Good luck!