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Thread: Do you belive in God? why?

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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Christiansmommy
    Very well said. It is God's job to change what He doesn't want for His children...and not ours to argue over it...
    I don't understand this...

    God has already made things the way He wanted. God gave mankind the freedom of choice, and God gave us guidance, and the choice to take it, or disbelieve in it. I don't know why this is going into a homosexual discussion, but...since everyone's talking about it now,...

    Love is something that comes from the heart and love for a person is not something that can really be controlled, HOWEVER, love can also JUST be love, without anything sexual.

    Sex is a CHOICE, a pure CHOICE, and nothing but a CHOICE. We are all human beings and all have cravings and fantasies...its in our nature, but its when cravings and fantasies are allowed to rule us, without us ruling them, that it leads to sin. Adultery is a sin. Adultery is committed between a man and woman that were married to someone else. They fell in love with each other (perhaps they could not control those feelings?) Then, they commit the act with each other. Then, they get accused of cheating by the entire world. No one says, "Oh...they couldn't control their feelings...", like people say about gays. Its because they COULD control their feelings and COULD have refrained from that act. They just chose not to.

    My point is...whether a man and a woman 'crave' for each other, if they are married to someone else, committing adultery is a sin, period. It IS a choice. It IS a choice to go and have sex with someone you love. Your body doesn't run automatically. If you have cheese and omelett in front of you, are hungry and craving for both, but only have the option for one, you have the CHOICE to pick and eat the food you want.

    God MADE man and woman, two genders, to be mates to one another. It goes no other way. If someone does it some other way...well...to some of you, it may not be a sin, but God Almighty said its a sin, and that's that. He also said adultery is a sin, and He said fornication is a sin, and He said murder is a sin, and while a person can repent and be forgiven for all of these sins, repentence is in order. God will not change gays because he didn't make them that way. He made them male and female just like us. He gave them the same body parts and body shapes as everyone else. Its their mind that takes them in that direction...just like an adulterous' mind takes him in that direction. At that moment, he's not thinking, "I'm married", but that, "I love this woman...I can't help it..."

    Why do we encourage kids to abstain in their youth then? Why don't we just say, "They can't help it...They're made that way...blah blah blah..." Its because they CAN help it. Our sexual actions are in OUR control. It makes no sense to say, "They were made that way..." No one is compelled to commit sexual acts with their own gender. They do it because they WANT to. Because they CHOOSE to. The sinful aspect of homosexuality is committing sexual acts with a person of the same sex. That is the SIN. Feeling love for a person is not a sin. Its actually a good thing to love our friends, family, neighbors, etc. Just not in that way.

    Satan tries to make us justify ourselves for whatever wrong we do, be it homosexuality, or anything else. That doesn't take the sin aspect out of it. JMHO

    Remember...this is a 'do you believe in God' thread, so everyone will be voicing their opinions in the way THEY see things.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by popcornbird
    I don't understand this...

    God has already made things the way He wanted. God gave mankind the freedom of choice, and God gave us guidance, and the choice to take it, or disbelieve in it.
    By saying it is up to God to change what He doesn't want for His children, I guess would be explained more clearly as....When we repent for something that the Holy Spirit convicted us of...the Holy Spirit makes that change within us, when we repent of our sins (and are convicted of them)...we can no longer be like our old self, that is why we are called "born again"...the Holy Spirit now dwells within us and makes us a new person...a murderer who is convicted of his ways and truely repents to the Lord for forgiveness, the Holy Spirit changes him and becoming a born again Christian means that you are aware of your sinful nature and you are changed, will you still sin, yes...but the Holy Spirit living within you, gives you that desire to live for God.









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    Most people here appear to be speaking in absolutes. I do not believe in absolutes. THIS is absolutely wrong. THIS is absolutely The Way. THIS is an absolute "sin". Sorry, I love you all but humanity is not made of absolutes, in my opinion. "Absolute 1. Perfect in quality or nature; complete. 2. Not mixed; pure. Total. I simply do not agree with absolutes. Again, no offense.

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    This is strange but I was raised Catholic & went to Catholic schools right
    through college, but find myself agreeing with everything said here by both Pam and Christiansmommy.

    Maybe most Christians are more alike than they are different.
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    I belive Jesus died on the cross for my sins then after three days he rose form the dead and went to heaven to be with God.That Jesus saved me is what i belive he saved me form hell so i could go to Heaven with him.
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    I am learning a lot here and love hearing different opinions! I know we talked a lot about homosexuality already, just wanted to add one thing...I believe that homosexuality is/was considered a sin because a homosexual relationship cannot produce children. I could be wrong, but that's how I believed it to be.

    critter crazy: I understand why you are confused, it's a difficult topic. There are SO MANY different beliefs, and it's easy to get all mixed up in it. I guess what's important is whatever you feel in your heart, and if you don't know what that is yet, keep searching, you will find it.

    lizbud: I know what you mean, sometimes it seems like Catholic beliefs are pretty different than other types of Christians, but I think it all boils down to the same ideas. I myself am not Catholic, but i have lots of Catholic friends and in discussions we have some disagreements about certain things but mostly agree, especially on the 'important' stuff (hope that made sense)

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    I was raised Catholic, and although I don't go to church often, still consider myself Catholic. Yes, I belive in God.

    I do have some problems with organized religion. I have a problem with religions saying their way is the only way. I think the truth has to be somewhere in the middle, and that one spefic religion can't be the only way to Heaven.

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    This is a hard topic for me because I have mixed feelings about it. Sometimes I believe and sometimes I don't. Like when we were at church and some of the people started talking in tongues and stuff... I found it funny and actually felt slightly embarrassed for them . My mom would tell me stories of all the stuff God does and did, and some of them I don't believe. Of course I can't tell anyone in my family that because they would be mad/sad towards me.

    I sometimes believe in God because of what has happened to my mom. Long story short: Marriage Problems; divorce; then randomly found a wonderful new husband. Some of the stories of recoveries I believe. It's just hard to explain in 'type-able' words.

    I am still very confoozled on this subject.
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