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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    From a Canadian veterinary study of commercial raw diets:


    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1140397

    Isolation of Salmonella spp. from 20% of raw diets was of concern, but it was not surprising, based on earlier reports. Salmonella sp. is a recognized pathogen of a variety of species, and salmonellosis has been reported in dogs and cats fed raw food contaminated with Salmonella spp.
    The study does not go into detail about whether or not the diet was fed properly. Yes, dogs are able to become sick from salmonella -- however, the wide variety of salmonellosis cases are due to rawhide. My vet has had a good amount of salmonella cases over the years, even before she became raw-focused, and it has all led back to rawhide. Due to it being difficult to digest, holding the bacteria back in the system and allowing it time to affect the dog. The same goes for raw meat -- if the raw meat is fed with grains or cooked food, it may be held back too long. The study you quoted does not go into detail about each of the situations involved, if the diet was fed properly, if there may have been other factors or contributing factors, etc. It is my opinion that dogs have a much higher chance of contracting salmonellosis from kibble or cooked food -- Kibble stored unproperly is more likely to absorb moisture and attract airborne salmonella -- Kibble causes plaque which stays in the mouth and on the teeth of the dog -- But in general, it's not something you need to worry about when feeding any diet. Dogs have strong disgestive systems that are identical to that of a wolf. Wolves also have less contributing factors that could lead to salmonella posioning.

    No, a dog will not get salmonella poisoning from raw meat alone.
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    The study was about salmonella contamination in food sources. Salmonella is not an airborne bacteria, it is spread through contact or ingestion. A high amount of salmonella bacteria in a food source can cause salmonella poisoning in ANY animal, depending on the strain of the bacteria.

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    I thought dogs didn't get salmonella from raw chicken, doesn't it have something to do with their strong immune systems? I though I read that somewere.

    It seems like Jenny is changing foods often, she is just getting used to purina 1, and than my mom goes out and buys a bag of Iams. I will be sure to get Nutro next time, it sounds good. Right now I have to finish the purina than start and finish the new Iams. Hopefully my mom will let her stick to nutro, instead of " accidentally" going out and buying more Iams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    The study was about salmonella contamination in food sources. Salmonella is not an airborne bacteria, it is spread through contact or ingestion. A high amount of salmonella bacteria in a food source can cause salmonella poisoning in ANY animal, depending on the strain of the bacteria.
    Salmonella can be airborne -- My grandmother has lung disease from inhaling airborne salmonella. It is mostly found in hatheries and other bird environments but is not limited to those and can be found in the household.
    The U.S.D.A. also performed another study to test the effectiveness of negative ionization at removing airborne Salmonella Enteritidis. The negative ions drastically reduced the airborne salmonella particles
    http://www.negative-ion-generators.com/ion_studies.php
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    Yes, salmonella can be airborne, but the main sources are in poultry houses, where is becomes airborne from dust contaminated with feces.

    The site you quote for "negative Ion Generators" is a pseudo-scientific sales pitch, AKA snake oil salesmen of the 21st century.

    BTW, "negative Ion Generators" would be more appropriately called Ozone generators. Ozone at ground level is a BAD thing, unless being used for a specific purpose, such as using it as PART of an antimicrobial filter system.
    Last edited by Lady's Human; 08-29-2006 at 02:05 AM.

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