Speaking of illegal immigrants...

[sparks19]

I am currently going through the immigration process right now. I have no problem with people immigrating. What I do have a problem with is them getting a free ride because they decided not to do it legally. I could have come here illegally too but I'm not. We aren't even done with the process yet. I have a temporary visitors permit they gave me at the border while I wait for my K3 to process and then we can start the REAL immigration process. I have been seperated from my husband one week after we were married until just recently. We are spending a lot of money on this. It sucks and it's hard and tedious BUT we are still doing it LEGALLY.

[mugsy]

I am currently going through the immigration process right now. I have no problem with people immigrating. What I do have a problem with is them getting a free ride because they decided not to do it legally. I could have come here illegally too but I'm not. We aren't even done with the process yet. I have a temporary visitors permit they gave me at the border while I wait for my K3 to process and then we can start the REAL immigration process. I have been seperated from my husband one week after we were married until just recently. We are spending a lot of money on this. It sucks and it's hard and tedious BUT we are still doing it LEGALLY.

GOOD FOR YOU!! And welcome to the country and may you live and be prosperous!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

GOOD FOR YOU!! And welcome to the country and may you live and be prosperous!

I second that!!!

I'm all for immagration; after all besides the two Native Americans my family tree has people from: England, Ireland, Germany, Scotland, Wales, Spain, Poland and Rome among others, it's just those coming in illegally I have problems with.

[sparks19]

I second that!!!

I'm all for immagration; after all besides the two Native Americans my family tree has people from: England, Ireland, Germany, Scotland, Wales, Spain, Poland and Rome among others, it's just those coming in illegally I have problems with.

Exactly. I think just because we want something done about illegal immigration does not mean we are against immigration. My grandmother came to Canada from England. of course that was a looooong time ago lol

I just came over from Canada lol

BTW thank you mugsy and momoffuzzyfaces

[Edwina's Secretary]

What I do have a problem with is them getting a free ride because they decided not to do it legally.

I not sure picking strawberries in the hot sun with toilet facilities three fields away is a free ride.....

[sparks19]

I not sure picking strawberries in the hot sun with toilet facilities three fields away is a free ride.....

I'm referring to how a few months ago they were considering just allowing them to become legals just like that. Why? They commit a crime and then you consider rewarding them for it? Send them back, and use prisoners to do the manual labour

[Vio&Juni]

Sparks19, I would walk a mile in their shoes before I would jump to conclusions. And state them out loud. Yes, you're doing it legally, but have you thought about how much more privilleged are you for having the resources to do it legally, for having the access to all the correct information, for just coming from the "right country"?

[Lady's Human]

I know many immigrants who have gotten here legally. I used to have an entire crew who worked for me made up of 99% hispanic immigrants. They came from garden spots like El Salvador, Nicaragua, Columbia, and Mexico, and were NOT wealthy or connected individuals. With one exception, they all came here legally, and the one exception applied for political refugee status on entry into the US ( he walked from El Salvador into the US, decided to take his chances with the border patrol rather than the Salvadoran press gangs). There are ways to get into the US legally, and they need to be used.

I am NOT anti immigration. I have an issue with people who are here illegally, and I have a bigger issue with the politicians in Washington who play with immigration laws to pander to constituents. Both borders are security vulnerabilities for the US, have been for years, and they need to be controlled.

[sparks19]

Sparks19, I would walk a mile in their shoes before I would jump to conclusions. And state them out loud. Yes, you're doing it legally, but have you thought about how much more privilleged are you for having the resources to do it legally, for having the access to all the correct information, for just coming from the "right country"?

the point is not whether you are more privileged or not the point is no matter where you come from, no matter what your financial status is or who you are, being an illegal immigrant is just that. ILLEGAL. So because I busted my hump to be more "priveleged" I should have to bust my a$$ and pay money just so I can legally be with my HUSBAND but they should just open up the mexican border and let the free flow in because they aren't as privileged?

LOL @ from the right country. They didn't exactly roll out the welcome wagon to let me in. I am STILL dealing with immigration. They go through your life with a fine toothed comb. Because I am "more privileged" I should have to deal with that but no one else should because life is tough enough?

The law is the law. Illegal is illegal. If they are going to free up immigration then they need to do it for everyone. not just the mexicans.

And like Lady's Human said, there are plenty of LEGAL immigrants here to came from more poverty than the Illlegal immigrants do. I'm sorry I just don't think that being less privileged is reason enough to be able to break the law. So if I were totally broke would it be OK to evade my taxes? Would it be ok to rob a bank? No one gets hurt right? So you have to pay a few extra bucks to pay for the taxes I'm not paying for but HEY, I am underprivileged.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Sparks...what is with your obsession and antipathy toward Mexicans??? Some left over NAFTA issues. There are illegal immigrants from Russia, Poland, VietNam, China, Canada, and every other country on earth. You seem to have a particular animus toward Mexicans. Every time you use the word "them" I cannot help but wonder....

[sparks19]

Sparks...what is with your obsession and antipathy toward Mexicans??? Some left over NAFTA issues. There are illegal immigrants from Russia, Poland, VietNam, China, Canada, and every other country on earth. You seem to have a particular animus toward Mexicans. Every time you use the word "them" I cannot help but wonder....

Sorry I was talking about border security. and it was the hispanics that did the "walk off" back in May I think it was because they wanted them to decide to just let the hispanics become legals. Thats why. Just because the story I was referring to was specifically hispanics.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I What I do have a problem with is them getting a free ride because they decided not to do it legally.

No, no, no....please let me apologize for thinking that in this sentence you were in any way sterotyping or being negative against any particular group of people.....

Whatever...history keeps repeating itself.

[JenBKR]

No, no, no....please let me apologize for thinking that in this sentence you were in any way sterotyping or being negative against any particular group of people.....

Whatever...history keeps repeating itself.

Maybe I missed something, but I still don't see the negativity in her using 'them.' It doesn't sound to me like she was referring to a particular group....then again, I'm not worried about being PC anymore because it has gotten absolutely ridiculous, you can't say anything anymore without offending someone, so maybe I'm missing it. Or maybe I just read the whole thing wrong.

[sparks19]

No, no, no....please let me apologize for thinking that in this sentence you were in any way sterotyping or being negative against any particular group of people.....

Whatever...history keeps repeating itself.

I was referring to a particular group. I was referring to Mexicans specifically because of that whole walk out thing. Do you remember that?

it wasn't just a blatant stab in the dark.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I was referring to a particular group. I was referring to Mexicans specifically because of that whole walk out thing. Do you remember that?

it wasn't just a blatant stab in the dark.

Yes... a number of my "born in the USA....American citizen" friends participated in it.

Assuming that by....whole walk out thing you mean the May 1 protest demonstration?

You know...I started to type an explanation of what the protest was about, but what's the point? Your mind is made up about them.