Small Dogs

[binka_nugget]

From Webster.com:

Purebred: bred from members of a recognized breed, strain, or kind without admixture of other blood over many generations

Recognized, meaning recognized by the CKC, AKC, UKC, etc. There are other "kennel clubs" that probably do recognize "Miniature Boston Terriers" as a purebred, but they are not the kennel clubs that reputable breeders join, but rather BYBs join in order to say that it is indeed a "papered purebred" so they can sucker people into thinking the dog comes from a great kennel and wonderful lines and make them pay an outrageous amount for essentially, a small boston terrier. So while they may seem like "purebreds" to you, to others like myself who only acknowledge breeds recognized by reputable kennel clubs like the AKC and CKC as purebreds, they are NOT purebreds, but rather undersized/smaller Boston Terriers.

This is the Boston Terrier standard, taken from the AKC site:

"Weight is divided by classes as follows: Under 15 pounds; 15 pounds and under 20 pounds; 20 pounds and not to exceed 25 pounds."

So according to the AKC (one of the larger, more recognized clubs), there are only Boston Terriers. No "Miniature Boston Terriers". A smaller boston would just be called a Boston Terrier. It's the same breed.

And honestly, if anyone was thinking about showing a dog, I would go by AKC/CKC/UKC, and not some dodgy "kennel club".

[zoomer]

I was thinking of Manchester Terriers. What do you guys know about them?

[Iilo]

Wow...

"We bought this dog from a pet store, so I think we'd know."

That is so priceless, it's amazing.

And what I keep saying about "show" is what Makalya wants to do with her dog. And with an undersized Boston Terrier, probably with bulging eyes and a poor front AND rear and just bad structure all around, she's not going to be doing any winning, which is just plain and simple a WASTE OF MONEY (which they obviously don't have much to spare anyway).

I bought MY dogs from a) a rescue and b) a reputable breeder and I've been IN dogs for 5 years or so now (not a huge number, but for someone who's only GOT 17 years it's good enough).... so I think I'd know.

As for Manchester Terriers... They're terriers. They're freaking cute, Rien had one in his Puppy K class. According to his owner, they're hard to housebreak and they bark a lot -- they're terriers, so they're going to be a little difficult. Grooming is obviously very minimal for the show ring (although I could stand corrected, seeing as how I've never actually HAD to groom one for the ring... with some short coated breeds you'd be surprised).

[Iilo]

Trolls? What do you mean trolls?

This I find interesting, considering finding this in a spree of detective work:

http://www.petoftheday.com/talk/show...ht=liar+sister

No... didn't you read? That was my liar sister... the troll, the owner of all the troll accounts... which were recently deleted by Karen (THANK GOD).

I'm rather curious as to what shows you and Diesel have been to recently? http://www.petoftheday.com/talk/show...ht=high+octane

What was the show called where you placed 2nd in the Working Group?

Oh, and High Octane *is* a sort of kennel name, according to the AKC. There are four dogs registered with that prefix... High Octane Diesel Douglas, High Octane Diesel Fuel, High Octane Unleaded, and one other whose name I cannot recall just offhand. I cannot find a single show result for any of these dogs, no matter how much digging I go through.

For someone who's already gotten a group two... I'm just curious -- where are the win pics? Why can't you continue to show Diesel rather than get a new puppy -- he seems to be RATHER successful.

[Alysser]

NO, really?! *shock and awe*

I just, really dislike all of the excuses (lies) that have been fed to people. What is the point?

So, what does this mean? Deisel really isn't a show dog?

[Iilo]

Diesel is registered with the AKC.
I cannot find any record of his litter, which is highly uncommon, especially for a dog who has received a g2 placement.
I think it's just as bad for you, Briana, to jump to conclusions. She hasn't yet had a chance to answer all my questions. She may very well be Diesel's co-owner, and he may very well be a veteran show dog and the records are just very buried. There's only so much the internet can tell you, and I don't feel like wasting my time calling supers about someone with an inferiority complex on some Pet forum.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Diesel is registered with the AKC.
I cannot find any record of his litter, which is highly uncommon, especially for a dog who has received a g2 placement.
I think it's just as bad for you, Briana, to jump to conclusions. She hasn't yet had a chance to answer all my questions. She may very well be Diesel's co-owner, and he may very well be a veteran show dog and the records are just very buried. There's only so much the internet can tell you, and I don't feel like wasting my time calling supers about someone with an inferiority complex on some Pet forum.

I didn't mean to jump to conclusions, I'm just going by the current facts in front of me.

[Alysser]

I REALLY think we are only hearing half the story....Zoomer, I'm sorry if I'm incorrect but PLEASE explain.

[Iilo]

Since I know Zoomer has been on the board since this has made it to page 2.....

Own up to the truth, kiddo.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Since I know Zoomer has been on the board since this has made it to page 2.....

Own up to the truth, kiddo.

*nod* I want to know what's going on.

[bckrazy]

*sigh* when we politely question an explanation, it's completely ignored... like usual. Maybe it's the "crazy sister" doing everything again?

[Roxyluvsme13]

We could always try PM's.. but, if he's your co-owned show dog, then why are you afraid to tell us the truth? I mean it's not that hard to type a paragraph or 2.

[Zippy]

*sigh*
I thought this thread had run it's course

[bckrazy]

I would be shocked if this thread wasn't deleted by Zoomer by the end of the day. As always.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Yeah, because she's afraid we'll hate her.. but hey, atleast if she leaves maybe they'll be less arguing..