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    How about this, just to go along with the "he shouldn't have been there in the first place" idea:

    A child sees a farm with horses, and reads all the signs that say "Keep Out! No trespassing!" etc but climbs the fence anyway and starts to run towards the horses, excited and wanting to pet them. Spooked by someone unfamiliar they panic. The child gets kicked in the head and trampled.

    The child shouldn't have been there in the first place. Did they deserve what they got? They wanted to see what was on the other side, because it was different, new and exciting and maybe better than any other play spot.

    I live in Arizona and goodness knows we get a lot of illegal immigrants here. Illegal or not, no one should serve time for a crime they did not committ. So our government picked up the tab for his defense... how is that any different for our government picking up the tab for the defense of a serial killer, child rapist etc? Don't forget, "If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you." Basic rights. I don't particularly like the idea of my tax money going to defend some of the most heinous criminals, but that is how this country works. Illegal or not, he is still a human being a fact that we tend to overlook too often. He wasn't here committing crimes to make money, he was working. If he's illegal, deport him. Fine. But do no throw him in prison where he might have been KILLED for his alleged mollestation of a little girl. Innocent is innocent, and of the crime he was accused he is INNOCENT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heinz57_79
    How about this, just to go along with the "he shouldn't have been there in the first place" idea:

    A child sees a farm with horses, and reads all the signs that say "Keep Out! No trespassing!" etc but climbs the fence anyway and starts to run towards the horses, excited and wanting to pet them. Spooked by someone unfamiliar they panic. The child gets kicked in the head and trampled.

    The child shouldn't have been there in the first place. Did they deserve what they got? They wanted to see what was on the other side, because it was different, new and exciting and maybe better than any other play spot.
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    Believe me I know too well about children getting hurt for being where they shouldn't. I had a cousin killed when he was a baby by climbing up on a tractor tire that was leaning against a wall in a barn. It fell on him and killed him. Did he desere to die? No. But still, it wouldn't have happened if he hadn't been where he was warned time and time again not to go.

    The illegal immagrant did not deserve the punishment he got either. The people who did that to him deserve punishment. What I was trying to say, rather poorly obviously, was if he had made "other" choices like coming into the country legally, the time line of his life would have changed and he probably wouldn't have been where he was. His life wouldn't have been ruined.
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    But should the people who accused him wrongly be allowed to remain anonymous? Shouldn't their names be known to the public for what they caused unnecessarily to this man? illegal imigrant or not, it has nothing to do with why they were in court this time.

    I don't like paying for his lawyer either, but I like even less that he was accused of something, convicted, served 5 years and THEN they find out he didn't do it. Shouldn't the accusors pay back the costs to the government for the trial, his upkeep, his lawyer? Maybe pay him for lost wages and ruining his reputation?










    Then deport him

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    Quote Originally Posted by mruffruff
    But should the people who accused him wrongly be allowed to remain anonymous? Shouldn't their names be known to the public for what they caused unnecessarily to this man? illegal imigrant or not, it has nothing to do with why they were in court this time.

    I don't like paying for his lawyer either, but I like even less that he was accused of something, convicted, served 5 years and THEN they find out he didn't do it. Shouldn't the accusors pay back the costs to the government for the trial, his upkeep, his lawyer? Maybe pay him for lost wages and ruining his reputation?
    Then deport him
    Yea, I can't believe they get to remain anonymous after what they did. The public should be allowed to know so they can be aware and maybe protect themselves from this sort of thing.

    They should give a settlement for taking 5 years out of someones life needlessly. They should pay all court costs on both sides plus serve hefty jail time themselves.
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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