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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyBogart
    If people turn up their nose at the very sight of you, it's HARD TO GET A JOB. Chat with some homeless folks sometime, talk to them about their job-hunting endeavours. It's like climbing an avalanche, and while some people manage to do it, some are never going to manage it and for some people it will take years of effort.
    Exactly! In this economy, it's hard to find a job even if you are educated and have never had any problems. I can't imagine how hard it would be to face so many obastacles. Not only do you have to face logistics (no address, phone, or possibly recent job history) you have to face a stereotype that says you are lazy and worthless.

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    Although I do give money to Panhandlers I come across weekly, I have found another way to contribute aside from cash to someone on the street.

    We have an organization called Hope Net. They encourage you NOT to give money to people on the street - but to give them a voucher for their organization. Hope Net will then help them in the way they might need the most, a place to sleep, food, a chance to take a shower. Through our Rotary Club we are asked to provide food for them. Several times a year we collect cans of food and we are asked to provide pop top cans of tuna, or soup - healthy food that can be easily opened without a can opener. Peanut butter is another request. Whenever we have these drives, I find myself spending way more than a buck or two to a panhandler - by buying dozens of cans of food or jars of peanut butter. (there is an emphasis on nutrition).

    Another organization probably not many know about is NEW DIRECTIONS. It is an organization and building on the Veterans Administration property - although it is not directly affiliated with any government organization.
    They are actively searching out veterans every day in Los Angeles - by finding them under bridges, on corners, anywhere they live as a homeless person. Their mission is to rehabilitate the veteran by getting him or her off of drugs, alcohol and the ultimate goal is for the veteran to leave with
    A. A JOB
    B. AN APARTMENT
    C. CLOTHING
    D. $2,000 IN SAVINGS

    They have an amazing success rate - because they don't back down - they are there every step of the way.

    Just this week we had another drive - to provide those in rehabilitation with some basic stuff - soap - toothpaste - toothbrushes - deodorant - socks.
    Again, you wouldn't believe the mound of these products that were brought in to donate to NEW DIRECTIONS. And our organization is just a middle class group of people - no one is wealthy. I think there is such a great response because we all know - our money is being well spent - not cash
    for perhaps more booze.

    On the premises they have a cooking school - and they have opened a diner on the grounds - serving great food at a reasonable price. They also do catering - and we found out how good they are - they gave us way too much food (which we paid for, of course). But we went back to them and told them their portions were too generous.

    They also have an outstanding choir which you can hire - but all of the money goes back to help their buddies in re-hab.

    What is perhaps most frightening of all is that there is a prediction that there will be a huge uptick in homeless once our men and women return from Iraq.
    These men and women walk "in the front line" every day - never knowing when or where there will be another explosion or suicide bomber. So they are returning not only physically damaged, but also mentally damaged.

    We are not prepared in any way to deal with the numbers of people that will be needing help badly.

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    I don't give money directly to panhandlers, as the only one I ever see around home is about as homeless as I am. We do, however, give to the church, and our church supports a mission for the homeless that is taking root in our area. They advocate for the homeless, find them places to live, and work with other charities to get them jobs and treatment for whatever problems they might have.

    The truly homeless around Central NY are fairly invisible. People were complaining about the homeless living by the river in downtown Binghamton, so the city council passed a law banning anyone from being by the river at night.

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    I'm probabyly a terrible person for thinking this but, I feel myself siding with
    this church and not this young woman.Generosity does wear out.


    Speaking of homeless

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    Church tells Katrina mom it's time to go
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    Palatine congregation wants woman, her 3 kids to move on; she says they
    gave her to Dec. 31

    By Richard Wronski
    Tribune staff reporter

    August 4, 2006

    Moved by the plight of a single mother who appeared on Oprah Winfrey's
    show last year to tell of losing her home to Hurricane Katrina, members
    of a Palatine church invited her to live rent-free in their parsonage.

    St. Paul United Church of Christ has hosted Keisha Moran, 23, and her
    children since last September, providing them with the means for
    starting a new life--including donations of clothing, furniture, food and even
    a car. But the church now says it is time for Moran and her three
    children--ages 5, 1 1/2 and 4 months--to leave and get on with life on their
    own.

    "Our commitment was to provide housing for you and to give you an
    opportunity to become self-sufficient after the losses you experienced from
    Hurricane Katrina," the church's Executive Council told Moran in a
    letter. The council said that it is time for Moran to take "the next step"
    by herself.

    One problem: Moran doesn't want to go. She said she is being kicked out
    prematurely and for no good reason.

    "I have three little kids. They don't deserve to be put out on their
    behinds," she said.

    Moran's predicament is similar to that of other Katrina victims who
    remain unprepared to fend for themselves, say experts who have counseled
    evacuees.

    Although many of them have pulled their lives together, getting jobs
    and adjusting to a new way of life, there are just as many who have not,
    said Pam Cordier, statewide coordinator of the Illinois Department of
    Human Services Katrina crisis counseling program.

    "We are finding many who are stuck in limbo," Cordier said. "While a
    year seems like a long time, it really isn't when you've lost everything
    you've owned--especially a single woman with three children."

    The most recent tally shows about 6,570 Gulf Coast evacuees still
    living in Illinois, said state and federal officials. That is down from
    about 8,000 who relocated here during evacuation.

    With federal funds, Illinois provided crisis counseling and resources
    for evacuees.

    Generosity wears out

    In some cities, a phenomenon known as "Katrina fatigue" has been
    identified.

    "In Houston, the welcome mat is not only no longer out, it's been put
    through the shredder," said Shari Julian, a professor in the Department
    of Criminology and Criminal Justice at the University of Texas in
    Arlington.

    Although enormous amounts of money and supplies were collected for
    evacuees, usually little was done to address their long-term emotional and
    psychological needs, Julian said.

    "We were overwhelming them with all this stuff, but we didn't figure on
    what's going to happen when all this largesse is gone," she said.

    Moran acknowledges a debt of gratitude to those who have helped her,
    but she feels deceived by the church. She says it assured her that she
    would be allowed to live in the parsonage until Dec. 31. The church has
    asked her to leave by Aug. 31.

    Church officials said Moran knew last year that her status would be
    reviewed in June. In a July 19 letter, they told her that the church
    needed to remodel the parsonage so its pastor, Rev. Michelle McNamara, can
    move back in.

    "The implication . . . is that in some way, shape or form we're going
    to evict or throw this poor, hopeless victim on the street," McNamara
    said. "Nothing could be further from the truth."

    Since Moran and her children arrived in Palatine, they have received an
    outpouring of community support.

    The "Oprah" segment featured a pregnant Moran, her children and
    boyfriend Danny Thompson living in a tent in the parking lot of a discount
    store in Bay St. Louis, Miss.

    Local volunteers drove to Mississippi, found the family and brought
    them to Palatine. Other volunteers painted and cleaned the yellow
    parsonage on Palatine Road.

    In addition to food, clothing and furniture, the family received
    donations; about $3,000 was raised last fall at St. Paul's "Mardi Gras of
    Hope."

    Moran was an administrative aide in an office for about a month last
    October, but said she left after her boss lost his job. Since then, Moran
    said she has focused on her children, Kaejiah, 5; Keziah, 19 months;
    and Kaedin, 4 months.

    Thompson, the father of Keziah and Kaedin, does not live with Moran and
    can't support them at this time, she said.

    Moran said it would be impossible for her to raise the several thousand
    dollars needed to pack and ship her belongings to Mississippi or to pay
    the security deposit and rent on a new home. Her mother lives in a
    Federal Emergency Management Agency trailer in Mississippi.

    McNamara said hosting the family has been "an incredible blessing." But
    the church community has provided all the help and resources it could
    muster over the past 11 months to help Moran get on her feet. Day care
    and job opportunities have been offered, McNamara said.

    "I'm certain there are thousands of people in Illinois or anywhere
    across the country who, if they were given the opportunity to live
    rent-free in a home the entire year and have their needs met, would seize the
    opportunity and change their life in such a way that the future would be
    radically different," McNamara said.

    Help is still available

    Other agencies are willing to help Moran immediately, McNamara said.
    The not-for-profit Women in Need Growing Stronger, or WINGS, has offered
    Moran and her children housing for at least six months

    "My heart is breaking because we have loved this woman and her children
    for an entire year and have given everything we have," McNamara said.
    "We've put our needs second in order to put her needs first."

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud
    I'm probabyly a terrible person for thinking this but, I feel myself siding with
    this church and not this young woman.Generosity does wear out.
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    No, I agree with you. At some point, you have to tkae care of yourself and stop depending on other people. She doesn't really even sound all that grateful for everything they have done for her, instead she is complaining that they haven't done enough

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