Bush vetoes embryonic stem-cell bill

[Maresche]

If you were pregnant and it was an Embryo at this point and science said OK we need that Embryo because we need to run some more experiments, would you just say OK?

I wasn't going to say anything but this comment takes the bill completely out of context and represents a complete misunderstanding of this issue in my opinion.

The scientists want to use cells from embryos already aborted OR extra embryos from IV procedures. These are unwanted embryos as it is, so why not use them to bring some good to the world. They are not going to be brought to term anyway.

No one has said anything about forcing/paying women to have abortions in the name of science. Such an idea is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion and I highly doubt it would be tolerated in America. But that is not the topic of this bill.

[sparks19]

I wasn't going to say anything but this comment takes the bill completely out of context and represents a complete misunderstanding of this issue in my opinion.

The scientists want to use cells from embryos already aborted OR extra embryos from IV procedures. These are unwanted embryos as it is, so why not use them to bring some good to the world. They are not going to be brought to term anyway.

No one has said anything about forcing/paying women to have abortions in the name of science. Such an idea is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion and I highly doubt it would be tolerated in America. But that is not the topic of this bill.

I agree. My point was not that they are just asking random women to give it up. But many people say well it's just a mass of cells, but if that mass of cells were yours would you feel differently?

[beeniesmom]

I agree. My point was not that they are just asking random women to give it up. But many people say well it's just a mass of cells, but if that mass of cells were yours would you feel differently?

No, because if I chose to give my "mass of cells" up, it meant that I didn't want them in the first place. At least it would go towards some good.

[Maresche]

No, because if I chose to give my "mass of cells" up, it meant that I didn't want them in the first place. At least it would go towards some good.

You hit the nail on the head!

[sparks19]

Not everyone makes a CHOICE to lose their Embryos. Remember that.

Sorry I brought this a little close to home. I must depart from this thread.

[Maresche]

I apologize if this issue hits you close to home. I never meant to make any of this personal.

[sparks19]

I apologize if this issue hits you close to home. I never meant to make any of this personal.

I have to apologize. You didn't make it personal. i did and that was foolish of me to do.

[Maresche]

I agree. My point was not that they are just asking random women to give it up. But many people say well it's just a mass of cells, but if that mass of cells were yours would you feel differently?

I still don't the point of this statement in relation to the bill at discussion.

Of course, my thoughts would differ if the embryo asked to be given up is mine. But that isn't happening here. No one is giving up wanted embryos/masses of cells. No one wants them and they are going to be disposed of in an incerinator anyway. Why not make some use of them so they don't go to waste?