Purina Mainstay?

[wolfsoul]

I found this...Doesn't sound too good.

Mainstay Brand
Ground Yellow Corn
Corn Gluten Feed Corn
Beef And Bone Meal
Soybean Meal
Ground Rice Hulls
Protein = 16%
Fat = 6%
Fiber = 8%
Moisture = 12%

[Roxyluvsme13]

I found this...Doesn't sound too good.

Mainstay Brand
Ground Yellow Corn
Corn Gluten Feed Corn
Beef And Bone Meal
Soybean Meal
Ground Rice Hulls
Protein = 16%
Fat = 6%
Fiber = 8%
Moisture = 12%

Exactly what I figured.. No wonder it was $3.49.. :/

[K9soul]

Jordan's info was all I could find too. Other than that it's called "generic Dog Chow" and is favored by farmers because of how cheap it is. It has less protein than Dog Chow or Beneful. In fact I think it's the first time I've seen a food with less than 20% crude protein. Interesting how Purina doesn't include it on their site.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Jordan's info was all I could find too. Other than that it's called "generic Dog Chow" and is favored by farmers because of how cheap it is. It has less protein than Dog Chow or Beneful. In fact I think it's the first time I've seen a food with less than 20% crude protein. Interesting how Purina doesn't include it on their site.

That makes me feel just lovely about feeding it. My mom made a comment today about: You can choose Roxy's food when you can buy it.

I want her on Raw, but it's just not an option at the moment.

[K9soul]

Well hopefully you can go with her next time, and get something at least a bit better. All you can do is keep trying.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Well hopefully you can go with her next time, and get something at least a bit better. All you can do is keep trying.

I was with her.. but she doesn't listen to me on anything. I told her the first ingredient was corn (which is BAD) She goes: I thought vegetables were good for dogs? I said not like that..

[IRescue452]

Mainstay is actually a very good food. It isn't marketed so you don't pay for advertising. Its scores a B+ on that rate your dog food chart. I used to feed it to Autumn and she did wonderful on the food. I recommended it once on here as a note to people who can't afford most foods but I didn't get any replies and it was lost in the threads. If this is what your mom wants to buy, encourage it, this food is so much better than stuff like Iams and whatever else she might be tempted to buy. They have different varieties of mainstay including lamb and rice, beef, and chicken, but I've only found the beef in local stores.

[zoomer]

I found this...Doesn't sound too good.

Mainstay Brand
Ground Yellow Corn
Corn Gluten Feed Corn
Beef And Bone Meal
Soybean Meal
Ground Rice Hulls
Protein = 16%
Fat = 6%
Fiber = 8%
Moisture = 12%

Eeek sounds gross. It might make her sick (but I know you told your mom that). Why won't your mom buy a different food for her? How big as the food and how long will it last?

[Roxyluvsme13]

Eeek sounds gross. It might make her sick (but I know you told your mom that). Why won't your mom buy a different food for her? How big as the food and how long will it last?

It would only make her sick since she's been on Raw. The quality has nothing to do with it, since she's eaten worse than that before I was kibble knowledgable. Because my mom can't afford it. It's a 17.6 pound bag, and it will last from 2 weeks - 1 month.

[bckrazy]

Eeek sounds gross. It might make her sick (but I know you told your mom that). Why won't your mom buy a different food for her? How big as the food and how long will it last?

Seriously, the pot is calling the kettle black. Dog Chow is not the healthiest kibble out there either, but she isn't calling your kibble gross.

I think we have all spoken to her about the kibble her Mom chooses to buy, many times. Honestly, I feel sorry for her & for her pups, we all know she tries. Just keep asking, do chores & help out more if that means even a slightly better food for Roxy. The protein & fat in that is extremely lacking, she will most definitely need a ton of that kibble to keep weight on, so make sure you are upping her food and even try to feed her cooked meat scraps from dinner & such to add some more meat to her diet.

[elizabethann]

even try to feed her cooked meat scraps from dinner & such to add some more meat to her diet.

That was what I was going to suggest.

Roxyluvsme13, just think, when you're older & out on your own, you're going to have a wealth of information on how & what to feed your dogs. You know so much about dog food at such a young age! Good for you!

[Roxyluvsme13]

Roxyluvsme13, just think, when you're older & out on your own, you're going to have a wealth of information on how & what to feed your dogs. You know so much about dog food at such a young age! Good for you!

Aww, thank you. When I'm on my own, Roxy's going to be a house dog, too.

[IRescue452]

This post will make that stupid grade your dog food post come to light as being inaccurate.
Here are the ingredients in order: Ground yellow corn, corn gluten feed, beef and bone meal, soybean meal, ground rice hulls, animal fat +preservs., salt, dicalcium phosphate, animal digest.
Now to tell you what you are missing by just being a normal person reading a label.
When chicken is the main ingredient in a food, feathers, beaks and gravel/beddings are counted as protein. A chicken food that claims 20% protein is not exactly telling the truth. With beef, more of the cow is an edible source of protein including horns and hoofs. 16% protein is perfectly acceptable. In fact, for dogs, 0% protein is acceptable.
Corn as the first ingredient is a good thing sometimes. Most companies do what is called splitting, they take that 49% corn and split it into smaller groups. Corn is listed a few times, but much further down on the label so it looks like there is less corn. Purina rarely does this. Proctor and gamble does this on almost every label.
Ground rice hulls are 8% of the ingredients and are used as a source of fiber.
Purina does NOT use beet pulp. This is a reason why some dogs have questionable poop. Beet pulp is an artificial binder to create good looking stools. Any food that says beet pulp in the ingredients should be considered suspect and I would not use them because you don't know what they are trying to cover up.
Corn and beef are not bad ingredients either. No ingredient is to be blamed for allergies or other medical conditions. The reason most dogs develope allergies is because they are fed the same crap over time. As their immune system falters from being fed kibble, they are more likely to suffer allergies.
Another good thing about mainstay is that it tests negative for pentobarbitol. Proctor and gamble and nutro both test positive. This is a big red flag about dog foods that are considered good brands (by people who know squat about nutrition and the labeling games).

[IRescue452]

Would it make you happier if purina combined the first two ingredients? You seem to think it matters how many times corn is listed in the first 3 ingredients. If it were only listed once all the sudden this would be the best food right? Some companies do this. Gives you a false sense of security since it is only up there once. Purina would have every right to combine these two into one and make their product look better. They don't though. Why not? You put so much merit in the foods that play this little labeling trick, mainstay could join in.