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  1. #1
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    The majority of Belgians are never sent within the same province/state -- they are almost always sent to other provinces, states, and a high percentage of the time to Europe, so the liklihood of them actually wanting to ship their dog back to me is not very good --- and while verbal communication can only assure so much, I'd rather talk to them and make sure they've approved the new home and get that home's contact information for me.

    The reason I ALWAYS need the contact information is that if the dog is in a shelter or rescue and they contact me with the dog's tattoo number and microchip, I know exactly who is losing my dogs and for what reasons, so that I can warn other breeders and know not to sell them another dog. I can contact the owner after the shelter contacts me.
    I've been BOO'd!

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    Again, and I can't stress this enough, contact an attourney specializing in contract law before you do this. I know in the US parts of that contract would be illegal without a privacy act statement, and there are legal limitations on how long you can keep information.

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    Well it sounds as if you know what your doing I have never bred anything so I was just giving outsider advice anyways Good Luck!

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    I think it sounds great!! I can understand that you want to know where the dog is so you can contact the owners when you need to. Great job.

    *Sammy*Springen*Molli*

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    What will you do if a person doesn't own a credit card? I only have one and its expired having never been used. Not many people can say they don't have one by the time they are almost done with college but I'll be the exception.
    "There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion."

    Lord John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton

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    Reasons the Credit Card/Birth cert or other requirement for personal data are a major problem:

    Where are you going to store the info?

    If on an IT (computer) system is it certified against unauthorized intrusion?

    If in a safe does it meet bank standards?

    How long?

    How much liability insurance are you going to carry for loss of the data or security breach of the data? (you can do a lot with a birth cert or CC#)

    How are you going to notify the person that the data has been compromised if it happens?

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    OK, I'm going to try and say this nicely, and I'm probably a reject, but if I was looking for a pet, there is no way I would sign papers that required me to sign over a credit card number so that I can be tracked. Not in this day, where identity theft is so rampant. I would walk away, and find a different source to find a puppy/dog. Also, the part where you need to know exactly where the dog is, at all times, seems to be excessive. Again, I wouldn't sign a contract, having to keep tabs with someone else to make sure THEY think that I am taking care of my dog. That's my business.

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    If the dogs microchipped,The owners will change it over to there address right?When i got Bandit at the beggining the breeders had there information,and i was given the paperwork to change it over to my name for a fee of like 25.00$Which you would also have to do.
    You are very caring i can see that but all my guys are from Breeders and i would feel as if they were not my dogs if i have to follow through with all that.My contracts never had where they had too tell me every move they made,Now i would of liked to know if the animal ended up in a shelter but take into consideration,If the dog can no longer be taken care of ,I'd hope the buyer would have enough Heart to call back and tell the Breeders that they are returning the dog.Also there is the screening also i have done it now you can't tell everything in 5 minutes of meeting but i myself can make a good judgment,I have refused more than one person.
    Your heart is in the right place it really is,But i don't think there is that many people out there that have money to spend on a dog to mistreat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lori Jordan
    You are very caring i can see that but all my guys are from Breeders and i would feel as if they were not my dogs if i have to follow through with all that.My contracts never had where they had too tell me every move they made,Now i would of liked to know if the animal ended up in a shelter but take into consideration,If the dog can no longer be taken care of ,I'd hope the buyer would have enough Heart to call back and tell the Breeders that they are returning the dog.Also there is the screening also i have done it now you can't tell everything in 5 minutes of meeting but i myself can make a good judgment,I have refused more than one person.

    Your heart is in the right place it really is,But i don't think there is that many people out there that have money to spend on a dog to mistreat it.
    My contract with Kaige is fairly similar to hers. Asking many of the same questions (except the credit card info thing and a few other smaller things), telling me what I am and am not allowed to do, in regards to showing, breeding, grooming, etc... And I was VERY pleased that it was so in detail. Made it clear to understand and proved that the breeder truely cared about her pups. You'd be suprised how many buyers do not return the pups nor let the breeders know if or when they are giving their dogs up & to where they are going to. Volunteering at shelters has tought me that one. We'd always get in dogs with tats, microchips, etc... that came from breeder even WITH contracts liek this one, where they HAVE to let the breeder know. Even the BEST of breeders have a few dogs out there that they don't know what happened to. Some buyers just seem to drop off the face of the earth.

    And you should always meet potential buyers multiple times, so you have more than 5 or so minutes to judge them.

    When I worked at the vets office, most of the dogs that had behavioral problems and were not well groomed, etc... were rich peoples dogs. They get them because they are the "in" breed to own or who knows what other reasons. They soon realize that they are not what they want & they kind of kick them to the curb, usually buy build them a kennel for them to live in the rest of their lives.
    This was one of our (us who worked at the vets) biggest pet peaves. You'd be surprised what people with a lot of money do.

    I don't mean to be rude lori, I do agree with some things, but there are some creapy people out there, with money at that. You can never be too careful.
    Soar high & free my sweet fur angels. I love you Nanook & Raustyk... forever & ever.


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    And that is true...But there is also well presentable people to that dont have a dime to back them..It's a touchy situation with me really you never know where these pups are going you can just hope for the best.

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