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    Soooo Richard...you got something against short folks
    don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die....

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    People need to consider *context*.. if someone wrote and produced that song NOW then I could see how it would cause controversy. But it was released years ago. Attitudes have changed a lot since then, and I don't really think that the song was written with malice, but with terms that were used commonly at the time it was released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom
    Soooo Richard...you got something against short folks
    LOL,
    I went with my GF to test drive a Toyota Corrola...

    If I was in an accident, I'd have to call an eye doctor to get my knees outta my skull.

    I am living in a five foot eight world.
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    At an Abraham Lincoln festival my group sang some Stephen Foster songs, which we decided to "edit". I was reluctant to do this, but since the piece was to be aired on local cable, we decided it was for the best.
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    I rescue Not wanting to start fight but what exactly upsets you about the song? you can pm me if you want. I am trying to figure out what is objectinable in the song.
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    UM does this company allow Rap? Hip Hop? how about Easy Listening? any song you want to pick can be sonsidered PC uncorrect. i.e. Super Freak? or Donna Summers song She works hard for the money? How about ANYTHING that is gangsta rap? or most country music? one that comes to mind is queen of the double wide trailer, oh and the Hit by Cher Gypsy? let's see who havent we offended yet? Jasper is Shawnee and for the record he loves the song in question, doesn't even take offense to the songs in Disneys Peter Pan not even the one on how the "redman" became red. So I think she should crank up the songs play it and enjoy the music.

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    People are so sensitive these days. Times were different when that song was written. Being PC is such a load of crap. I mean everyone should be respectful but being PC doesn't rid the world of racism. I sometimes think people just want SOMETHING to complain about no matter how petty it is.




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    Everything is open to PC editing, unfortunately. Louis Armstrong, Hymns in church, you name it, the PC police have hit it.

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    So I guess on disco day "Play that Funky Music White Boy" is out of the question??


    -----------------------------
    Out in the West Texas town of El Paso
    I fell in love with a Mexican girl.
    Night-time would find me in Rosa's cantina;
    Music would play and Felina would whirl.

    Blacker than night were the eyes of Felina,
    Wicked and evil while casting a spell.
    My love was deep for this Mexican maiden;
    I was in love but in vain, I could tell.

    One night a wild young cowboy came in,
    Wild as the West Texas wind.
    Dashing and daring,
    A drink he was sharing
    With wicked Felina,
    The girl that I loved.

    So in anger I

    Challenged his right for the love of this maiden.
    Down went his hand for the gun that he wore.
    My challenge was answered in less than a heart-beat;
    The handsome young stranger lay dead on the floor.

    Just for a moment I stood there in silence,
    Shocked by the FOUL EVIL deed I had done.
    Many thoughts raced through my mind as I stood there;
    I had but one chance and that was to run.

    Out through the back door of Rosa's I ran,
    Out where the horses were tied.
    I caught a good one.
    It looked like it could run.
    Up on its back
    And away I did ride,

    Just as fast as I

    Could from the West Texas town of El Paso
    Out to the bad-lands of New Mexico.

    Back in El Paso my life would be worthless.
    Everything's gone in life; nothing is left.
    It's been so long since I've seen the young maiden
    My love is stronger than my fear of death.

    I saddled up and away I did go,
    Riding alone in the dark.
    Maybe tomorrow
    A bullet may find me.
    Tonight nothing's worse than this
    Pain in my heart.

    And at last here I

    Am on the hill overlooking El Paso;
    I can see Rosa's cantina below.
    My love is strong and it pushes me onward.
    Down off the hill to Felina I go.

    Off to my right I see five mounted cowboys;
    Off to my left ride a dozen or more.
    Shouting and shooting I can't let them catch me.
    I have to make it to Rosa's back door.

    Something is dreadfully wrong for I feel
    A deep burning pain in my side.
    Though I am trying
    To stay in the saddle,
    I'm getting weary,
    Unable to ride.

    But my love for

    Felina is strong and I rise where I've fallen,
    Though I am weary I can't stop to rest.
    I see the white puff of smoke from the rifle.
    I feel the bullet go deep in my chest.

    From out of nowhere Felina has found me,
    Kissing my cheek as she kneels by my side.
    Cradled by two loving arms that I'll die for,
    One little kiss and Felina, good-bye.

    This song is full of hatred and Un PC ideals.

    Murder, a floozy, mayhem, police brutality and it all happens because this guy wanted a little interracial something something with a VIRGIN dancer!!

    LIke if she really like the dude, why was she sharing a cup with someone else?

    Cheating?
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    I was standing in line at Magic Mountain during LAPD night years ago (The park was closed to the public=just cops.

    The had just installed TV screens that showed cartoon to the people in line.

    They started a Speedy Gonzalez cartoon and the numbskull in front of me began with the racist comments.....Mexicans this, Mexicans that..I was more offended by the fact that this AH worked for my city, as opposed to what he was saying about the "mexican mouse" running around on the screen.

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    MOst likely it was someone who had it out for your friend and used that as a reason.
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    I really feel just about every race and nationality has been through times of oppression and persecution at some point in history. I just personally can't see getting upset about the lyrics of a song written over 30 to 40 years ago, or sitting and being depressed over things that people did over 100 years ago. At one time women were considered a a man's property and fully within his rights to beat her or treat her however he wanted to. I would not get all offended and upset over a song written in another era about a woman being a good wife to her man etc. People have oppressed each other and done unspeakable things to each other since the beginning of time.

    I could go on and on I guess, the "PC movement" really aggravates me on all levels. Did you know there has even been a movement to change the spelling of "women" to "womyn" so that it doesn't have the word "men" in it? I have more important things to worry about in life. I'd be more concerned about the intent and deeds of true racists (of ANY nationality) than the words being sung by someone to a song.
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    Well said Jessica, I also agree with Richard.

    I'm be a whole lot more concernd about what harm true racists and haters are doing compared to old songs and books. Every race have gone through persecutions and trials since the beginning of whatever, so I have a hard time feeling sorry for one race more than any other, at least nowdays. There is just as much "reverse racism" going on as anything else. I just think people ought to be judged on their deeds alone, not on color or religion and getting up in arms over old songs and books and things from a diffrent time period. There is just enough really bad crap going on in the world now without needing to try to find things from the past to get upset about.

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    Oh Richard do I now have to give up my signed oringanl copy of Little Black Sambo too?
    I get so tired of changing history to suit some group. Hey as said before we all have had some kind of crap hapen to us , I'm scottish/prussian , my ansestors finaly found a place in the New world that became America. We had to leave England or be killed ( long family history story) .
    I say live your life not the past of your family or culture.
    Sorry but this stuff really pisses me off.
    By the way are we now going to wreck the song John Henry for me too?
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    I am not PC at all...I can see how some people would be offended by some things, but, some things...like this...I just don't see the point in getting that sad. I don't get bent out of shape when I see a big white chef sculpture outside of a cafe, holding a sign with a daily special. I think people perpetuate a lot of the problems they experience in life. All colors experience racism, and, there are many that make it worse for themselves. Not to say that there aren't true racists, because there most certainly are. I know a few. That song is so pathetically not important.

    As other examples, in Disney movies...they won't even sell one of my favorites The Song of the South, because Uncle Remus is black and they make a little decoy out of tar and put eyes and a hat on it and refer to it as a tar baby. It's a little kid made out of tar. Tar's black. And, I grew up in places where white was minority, and, I don't remember that term being used even then, it's not something that even gets used much anymore to refer to black people. And, Dumbo. A lot of people want that film taken off the market because the circus workers are all black. And, taking classic books out of circulation, like Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer.

    Good and bad, it's all part of history. Part of knowing mistakes people have made in the past is learning from them and hopefully not repeating them. People need to know that racism like that existed...that it still does. In twenty years or less, they're going to ban films like American History X.

    Anyway, my brain is all over the place. Sorry if I'm rambling.
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