Personality Disorder ???

[Lady's Human]

WIth very little research the writer could have found out what the soldier's real reason for discharge was. Discharge certificates are public record, and it would have stated the chapter he was discharged under along with the specific reason. "personality disorder" is not a reason for discharge.

If he did what he is accused of, he should hang.

[Edwina's Secretary]

If he did what he is accused of, he should hang.

Glad to see your commitment to "innocent until proven guilty" Does that apply to the guys at Gitmo too?


And RICHARD.... if seeing someone

splattered on a wall, have them die next to you,
or have them bleed to death in your arms.

is an explanation (I did not say excuse) .... does that apply to the "other side" as well? If they see someone they love....a friend, a parent a child a spouse die....does that justifiy revenge on US troops?

These are the moral cunundrums of war.

[Lady's Human]

In previous wars POWs were held until the end of hostilities, or exchanged for our POWs.

Being that the people challenging their continued captivity are pushing for them to be treated IAW the Geneva convention, which allows for POW's to be held until the cessation of hostilities, I see no reason not to oblige them.


We could, of course, take the other action allowed by the GC, which makes it perfectly legal to summarily execute armed civilians found engaged in combat on the battlefield. (The justification for this is that when the GC was written, they were assumed to be spies or illegal combatants, the GC didn't anticipate NGO's engaging in warfare.)

[Edwina's Secretary]

LH....You avoid the question. Innocent until proven guilty? This is the first I have heard that all those guys being held were captured as armed soldiers....

[Lady's Human]

Es, If they were captured as armed civilians on the battlefield, then there is a special section of the GC dealing with them. (in short, they have no GC protection)

If they were captured for another reason, then they should get trials. Military trials were accepted practice in these cases previously, and the USSC has just set out the map to follow to do just that. Now if congress would just get off their tuckusses and actually DO something, maybe there can be some progress.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Now if congress would just get off their tuckusses and actually DO something, maybe there can be some progress.

Now you are blaming the delay on congress? Are you sure it isn't the press?

Round up the ususal suspects....

I still ask the question. Do you believe them innocent until proven guilty?

[Lady's Human]

ES, personally, congress habitually (regardless of who is in charge) does nothing until the crisis they are reacting to has already passed. They do a good job of emulating most bureaucracies.......delay, deny, overreact.

I thought I was being fairly clear. For those who do not fall under GC provisions for non-uniformed combatants (Referred to in the GC language as illegal combatants), yes, they should get military tribunals. As in innocent until proven guilty.

[RICHARD]

moral cunundrums

Seriously,

Why are you cursing?

(that word always reminds me of something dirty)


I was not using that as an excuse, merely as a a point.....

a point where people break down and do not come back up.

[Edwina's Secretary]

But do you find that an acceptable explanation?

(I have that problem with a professional organization to which I belong...PIHRA....sounds like a gum disease to me....)

[RICHARD]

But do you find that an acceptable explanation?

nope, just something that set him off....

Kinda like walking into a bar and seeing your Mexican Maiden tossing one back with someone else....

You challenge him to a duel and bust a cap into his arse, kill him and end up on El Pasos' Most Wanted...