Personality Disorder ???

[Catty1]

I think they deliberately use the words "personality disorder" to cover any number of things and not get specific.

What he did was beyond sick...evil evil stuff...

[Lady's Human]

WIth very little research the writer could have found out what the soldier's real reason for discharge was. Discharge certificates are public record, and it would have stated the chapter he was discharged under along with the specific reason. "personality disorder" is not a reason for discharge.

If he did what he is accused of, he should hang.

[Edwina's Secretary]

If he did what he is accused of, he should hang.

Glad to see your commitment to "innocent until proven guilty" Does that apply to the guys at Gitmo too?


And RICHARD.... if seeing someone

splattered on a wall, have them die next to you,
or have them bleed to death in your arms.

is an explanation (I did not say excuse) .... does that apply to the "other side" as well? If they see someone they love....a friend, a parent a child a spouse die....does that justifiy revenge on US troops?

These are the moral cunundrums of war.

[Lady's Human]

In previous wars POWs were held until the end of hostilities, or exchanged for our POWs.

Being that the people challenging their continued captivity are pushing for them to be treated IAW the Geneva convention, which allows for POW's to be held until the cessation of hostilities, I see no reason not to oblige them.


We could, of course, take the other action allowed by the GC, which makes it perfectly legal to summarily execute armed civilians found engaged in combat on the battlefield. (The justification for this is that when the GC was written, they were assumed to be spies or illegal combatants, the GC didn't anticipate NGO's engaging in warfare.)

[Edwina's Secretary]

LH....You avoid the question. Innocent until proven guilty? This is the first I have heard that all those guys being held were captured as armed soldiers....

[Lady's Human]

Es, If they were captured as armed civilians on the battlefield, then there is a special section of the GC dealing with them. (in short, they have no GC protection)

If they were captured for another reason, then they should get trials. Military trials were accepted practice in these cases previously, and the USSC has just set out the map to follow to do just that. Now if congress would just get off their tuckusses and actually DO something, maybe there can be some progress.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Now if congress would just get off their tuckusses and actually DO something, maybe there can be some progress.

Now you are blaming the delay on congress? Are you sure it isn't the press?

Round up the ususal suspects....

I still ask the question. Do you believe them innocent until proven guilty?

[RICHARD]

moral cunundrums

Seriously,

Why are you cursing?

(that word always reminds me of something dirty)


I was not using that as an excuse, merely as a a point.....

a point where people break down and do not come back up.

[Edwina's Secretary]

But do you find that an acceptable explanation?

(I have that problem with a professional organization to which I belong...PIHRA....sounds like a gum disease to me....)

[RICHARD]

But do you find that an acceptable explanation?

nope, just something that set him off....

Kinda like walking into a bar and seeing your Mexican Maiden tossing one back with someone else....

You challenge him to a duel and bust a cap into his arse, kill him and end up on El Pasos' Most Wanted...

[lizbud]

I think they deliberately use the words "personality disorder" to cover any number of things and not get specific.

What he did was beyond sick...evil evil stuff...

Yes and it gives all American troops a black eye. What I wondered was
if potential recruits are tested in any way (except physicals) when they
come to enlist? Seems strange when he's discharged so close in time to
this story breaking.

[Lady's Human]

There is a minimal psych eval done while in MEPS, but most of the time we have the joy of finding out about these problems when the troops get to the units.


I've seen some ugly things come into units, multiple personalities, minimal intelligence, etc, but they do well enough to sneak through.

[RICHARD]

I have to chime in.

Take a best friend., co worker or relative.

Now think about them in splattered on a wall, have them die next to you,
or have them bleed to death in your arms.

I think it is a grave mistake to judge a 'personality disorder' without having known or seen what triggered a person to act that way.


Yes, there are people who slip thru the cracks.....But there are things seen in war time that can move a person to the edge of sanity.

Yep, that is a crime what that soldier did....

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Whitmire is a journalist that probably has never had his best friend shot or killed in he presence...

He is just parroting the 'facts' as he gets them.

I don't really give any story written by some wuss, at a desk in a news room,
any credence....it's all second hand wordage.

In a court of law hearsay don't mean squat.
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we can give any Peterson, Simpson, Ramsay character a break, but when it come to some jerk, fighting a war, we can't even see the forest.

Yep, he may have confessed but where are his rights.

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If we happen to capture a bomber that kills 30 people in a market place in Iraq are we willing to give him a break?


The question is why he did it.