Sabie, Thank you for your reponse. I have bookmarked the dogware.com. The veterinary recommended science diet canned dog food for Jake. He will not eat the canned dog food. He prefers the dry sport mix. He also loves bolona wonder bread sandwiches. I know sounds weird. A friend had some left over bolona from a trip out west & gave it to Jake & he ate it right down & Jake also likes bread. I was giving him Senior vitamins but he won't take them. He spits them out & believe me I have tried everything to hide them in his food. Yes, he has control over his urinating & the poops look normal now. At first they were all black looking when he came to us. He is an outdoors dog & has come indoors but wants to go back out. Yes, his flesh condition is horrible more bone & less flesh. He does have his off days where his appetite is down. But he seems to jump back & makes up for it the next day. I have notice days when his breath isn't smelly. We don't know his age, the veterinary figured under 10 years because there is no cloudiness in his eyes. I basically feed him whatever he will eat & lots of Old Roy dog treats. I think the exercise he gets everyday (a good mile walk) has helped him & he loves to be groomed which we do everyday. The dispatcher at the sheriffs office feels Jake was on the lamb a real long time. We wish he could talk & tell us what happened to him in his life. He is very gentle & whoever had him never abused him physically or mentally. He doesn't have any hangups that way. It is a sad state of affairs but we will keep trying different things like diet to improve his condition. Thank you so much for your reponse. I hope things will get better for your Sadie too.