wmds? what wmds?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Bob... I will attempt a translation....

There is this mysterious and homogenous group called "The Press". They are very evil. They should be telling us happy stories so we will feel good about ourselves and be content. Like putting Zoloft in the drinking water? They must never tell us bad things that happen or cause us to be unhappy with what our infallible government officials do.

Instead, this evil group "The Press" tells us that people get killed in wars....and how many. They are responsible for the lies told to convince the country (well part of it anyway) to accept the invasion of another country. "The Press" are responsible for Pat Tillman being killed by friendly fire".

It is "The Press" who are responsible for the whole mess in the Middle East. It is "The Press" that believes the rights given in the Constitution are open to interpretation by the Executive Branch of the government. Wiretapping...eavesdropping....blame "The Press!"

So you see, Bob, if we would just allow the government to control "The Press" (while they are listening to our phone conversations, tracking our library books, breaking into our homes without a search warrant, etc.) life would be wonderful....all terrorist would disappear and peace would rule!

[BOBS DAD]

So you see, Bob, if we would just allow the government to control "The Press" (while they are listening to our phone conversations, tracking our library books, breaking into our homes without a search warrant, etc.) life would be wonderful....all terrorist would disappear and peace would rule!

Thanks for clearing that up Edwina!!! LOL!




Eh... but I am sorry... OK OK I'm stupid, but is Richard attacking the Press "because he really thinks" it is evil... or is he being facetious? It was hard to tell with the endless run-ons and changing points!!!

Maybe my point isn't clear! The Press is NOT our Enemy - a Free Society must always allow for freedom of expression, to report the news and Yes - dissent. Otherwise you can kiss all your other rights GOODBYE!!!

P.S. I thought I saw Osama last night at Sheetz. He was eating a Jelly Donut!

[sparks19]

LOL this is obviously a pointless argument. Where did I state in my previous post that I trust the administration? Oh thats right NO WHERE. If you all want to debate this I am perfectly happy to do that but please read ALL of my post before you fly of the handle and label me a tool of the administration because they can do no wrong. I NEVER NEVER NEVER said that and had you read my post you would know that. I am not stupid. Please don't treat me as such. I am not trying to treat YOU that way.

I have a hate on for the press because I know what my husband had to deal with when he was in Bosnia. The questions they asked, the answers they got, were TOTALLY different than what was printed.

The press meaning THE PRESS. CNN FOX THE NEW YORK TIMES ALL OF THE PRESS. Really I didn't think it was tough to figure out what the press means. Anyone reporting on THIS WAR. See I can be condescending too.


When my husband was over seas a reporter asked him " Are you scared?" Stupid question if you ask me. Of course my husband replied with "Of course I'm scared. Bullets are flying in every direction, at anytime we could drive over a mine, but I am still here to do what I was sent to do"

You know what was printed? Not what you see above. They turned that story into an "Our troops don't feel well protected and they are forced to be there against their will." basically is what the story consisted of. My husband was a Tank Gunner. Bullets don't penetrate the sides of a tank. He felt well protected but of COURSE he was scared. Not being held there against his will.

Please read this whole post before flaming me for having a different opinion. And please talk down to me some more because THAT makes your argument more credible

[BOBS DAD]

Please read this whole post before flaming me for having a different opinion. And please talk down to me some more because THAT makes your argument more credible

Sorry if you felt anyone was talking down to you Sparks. I (and I'll bet everyone else here on PT) appreciates what your husband and others do in the line of service for this country. A well appreciated job!!!

Not to demean or diminish his service one bit, but there are some others who are also serving currently in Iraq - who do not understand why they are there or what the plan of action is. I know some and I am sure others do as well. To be fair, I am equally sure that there are scores of men (and women) who feel the mission is warranted if even unclear.

I guess I just don't see the Press as the OP-PRESSIVE force you do - but then, it is not as close or personal to me as you. Thanks for your fireback and steadiness on your position. Just remember, when push comes to shove - we are "ALL" Americans and we got your back!!!

P.S. I think it is that name that got some inflamed - SPARKS!!! LOL! That's just like pickin' a fight!!!

[sparks19]

Sorry if you felt anyone was talking down to you Sparks. I (and I'll bet everyone else here on PT) appreciates what your husband and others do in the line of service for this country. A well appreciated job!!!

Not to demean or diminish his service one bit, but there are some others who are also serving currently in Iraq - who do not understand why they are there or what the plan of action is. I know some and I am sure others do as well. To be fair, I am equally sure that there are scores of men (and women) who feel the mission is warranted if even unclear.

I guess I just don't see the Press as the OP-PRESSIVE force you do - but then, it is not as close or personal to me as you. Thanks for your fireback and steadiness on your position. Just remember, when push comes to shove - we are "ALL" Americans and we got your back!!!

P.S. I think it is that name that got some inflamed - SPARKS!!! LOL! That's just like pickin' a fight!!!

LOL don't blame me for the name It was bestowed upon me long ago lol.

I can appreciate those that have a different opinion. In fact, how do we ever learn anything new if we won't listen to both sides of the discussion.

You stated your position clearly and without judgement. I like that.

I know there are many over in Iraq who aren't really sure what they are there for but they are there and I appreciate their willingness to do so. I know I couldn't do what they do.

[Lizzie]

Bob... I will attempt a translation....
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So you see, Bob, if we would just allow the government to control "The Press" (while they are listening to our phone conversations, tracking our library books, breaking into our homes without a search warrant, etc.) life would be wonderful....all terrorist would disappear and peace would rule!

Ergo, the terrorists are really opposed to the "the press" and not governments. Wouldn't that be lovely since "the press" are surely easier to control than any government even though the latter is voted in.

I'm glad you spoke up, Bob's Dad, because the diatribe made my head spin also. It seems to be in the style of Hunter S. Thompson; a writing style which I admired for its individuality while disliking it on a personal level.

I think Richard is sniping at the people who believe the press is perpetuating the war for their own profitable ends. I've known some journalists for the major newspapers, and I've known a few people who went off to the Pentagon and places more secret, and I've known a few civil servant type politicians. I'm inclined to trust the journalists most.