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**RICHARD** · 06-23-2006, 12:49 AM

The press is a pretty powerful tool these days.

Now....without them we don't get to see Pearl killed or Berg beheaded.

Thank goodness the news director stops the film before they get killed.

Hmmm,

Real life terrror in my own house.

JUst as the talk radio stations played Berg's last screams.
Terror in my car.

Let's film the coffins coming into Dover.

Hey, where's the anti war gal.....the one hugging Jesse Jackson?

Let me get on Nancy Pelosi tossing a few statements out.

Bill Mahrer thought the 9/11 dudes were tough for riding the planes into the buildings.

Let's kill Pat Tillman again.

Now we have to worry about those soldiers who effed up in Haditha!
Abu Gharib.

Gitmo House of horrors.

You can get any 'news' you want on the tube or net.

And so can anyone else.

And that just fuels the fire.

Some poor Aussie soldiers fired up the bodyguards of an Iraqi politico on accident..

Some American knuckleheads fire up a crippled guy and try to sell it as an attack.

What about a story about the kid who comes to the US for medical help?

Oh, we stopped bombing, so there are no more, "sorry about the GBU, can we
bring your kids over here to put thme back together agaiin?"

The press didn't kill those men....the thought of some AH's watching the news,
Really ticked off that the boobytraps they left with the bodies didn't blow makes me mad.

It's just free press, a challenge for the next set of idiots that will try to top
that next time.

I'll see your two mutilations and raise you a loaded Bradley.
ANd what about covering the guys who are home, hurt, lost, legless?
what about crippled and crushed?

Let's just wait until Vet's Day to toss them a bone?

We can get the VFW member who is looking into the camera.
Look close at his eyes. He's reliving his wars, his friends, his demons.

Yep,
Let's put those pics coffin pics on the telly and give the b@st@rds the thrill
of knowing they won that battle.

The racing HumVee, Bradley or truck that disappears in a red flower of an IED-Listen to the excited voices of the terrormongers in the background.

One for the friggin home team!

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LOLOLOL,

We are all scared in America about our computers being looked at by the government but what about Al - Zarwacky's Dell?

Let's see,,,,,

B...

B...I......

B...I....N.....

LOOK IT'S OSAMA"S ADDRESS IN THE 'CONTACTS' section of MicroSoft's Outlook!!!!

Osama Bin Hidin'
Somewhere in a hole
Dirt, Afhganistan

Now he knows we got some intel - he is on the move.

Him, flush him out?
I bet.....

Just remember that the same model of cell phone you own mightbe the one that someone uses to let OBL that there are troops on the move, in his direction..

Can you hear me know?

Hmm. that dopey dude, Catherine Z Jones and that stupid cingular symbol are aiding and abetting the terrorists.

Hmm,
using technology to beat us?

Had the Wright Brothers known then what we know now, would they have gone to Kill Devil Hill and flown?

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Should we take it out on the messengers for delivering the news?
Back when the Chyron (sp?) technology was new they would put the daily VN scoreboard on the tube.

Killed 20
Wounded 100

Now they don't bother with the wounded, there is just enough time to flash a
pic of a young kid, in a beret or cover, looking off into the distance. A flag at his back and a serious look on his face.

The truly painful ones are of a group of soldiers, posing for the camera,
helmets on and loaded for bear. Lazy arms thrown over a friend's shoulder.

The ones I cannot look at show a family, one person never to return.
Smiles of what they know at the moment, never thinking about the future.

Yep, keep showing the war.

Like everything else we will grow bored and numb.

Then change the channel.

**BOBS DAD** · 06-23-2006, 08:55 AM

Richard,

I am not sure I understand your point(s) - "endless" points???

Were you drunk when you typed the last post?

**Edwina's Secretary** · 06-23-2006, 10:06 AM

Bob... I will attempt a translation....

There is this mysterious and homogenous group called "The Press". They are very evil. They should be telling us happy stories so we will feel good about ourselves and be content. Like putting Zoloft in the drinking water? They must never tell us bad things that happen or cause us to be unhappy with what our infallible government officials do.

Instead, this evil group "The Press" tells us that people get killed in wars....and how many. They are responsible for the lies told to convince the country (well part of it anyway) to accept the invasion of another country. "The Press" are responsible for Pat Tillman being killed by friendly fire".

It is "The Press" who are responsible for the whole mess in the Middle East. It is "The Press" that believes the rights given in the Constitution are open to interpretation by the Executive Branch of the government. Wiretapping...eavesdropping....blame "The Press!"

So you see, Bob, if we would just allow the government to control "The Press" (while they are listening to our phone conversations, tracking our library books, breaking into our homes without a search warrant, etc.) life would be wonderful....all terrorist would disappear and peace would rule!

**BOBS DAD** · 06-23-2006, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

So you see, Bob, if we would just allow the government to control "The Press" (while they are listening to our phone conversations, tracking our library books, breaking into our homes without a search warrant, etc.) life would be wonderful....all terrorist would disappear and peace would rule!

Thanks for clearing that up Edwina!!! LOL!

Eh... but I am sorry... OK OK I'm stupid, but is Richard attacking the Press "because he really thinks" it is evil... or is he being facetious? It was hard to tell with the endless run-ons and changing points!!!

Maybe my point isn't clear! The Press is NOT our Enemy - a Free Society must always allow for freedom of expression, to report the news and Yes - dissent. Otherwise you can kiss all your other rights GOODBYE!!!

P.S. I thought I saw Osama last night at Sheetz. He was eating a Jelly Donut!

**sparks19** · 06-23-2006, 11:28 AM

LOL this is obviously a pointless argument. Where did I state in my previous post that I trust the administration? Oh thats right NO WHERE. If you all want to debate this I am perfectly happy to do that but please read ALL of my post before you fly of the handle and label me a tool of the administration because they can do no wrong. I NEVER NEVER NEVER said that and had you read my post you would know that. I am not stupid. Please don't treat me as such. I am not trying to treat YOU that way.

I have a hate on for the press because I know what my husband had to deal with when he was in Bosnia. The questions they asked, the answers they got, were TOTALLY different than what was printed.

The press meaning THE PRESS. CNN FOX THE NEW YORK TIMES ALL OF THE PRESS. Really I didn't think it was tough to figure out what the press means. Anyone reporting on THIS WAR. See I can be condescending too.

When my husband was over seas a reporter asked him " Are you scared?" Stupid question if you ask me. Of course my husband replied with "Of course I'm scared. Bullets are flying in every direction, at anytime we could drive over a mine, but I am still here to do what I was sent to do"

You know what was printed? Not what you see above. They turned that story into an "Our troops don't feel well protected and they are forced to be there against their will." basically is what the story consisted of. My husband was a Tank Gunner. Bullets don't penetrate the sides of a tank. He felt well protected but of COURSE he was scared. Not being held there against his will.

Please read this whole post before flaming me for having a different opinion. And please talk down to me some more because THAT makes your argument more credible

**BOBS DAD** · 06-23-2006, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by sparks19

Please read this whole post before flaming me for having a different opinion. And please talk down to me some more because THAT makes your argument more credible

Sorry if you felt anyone was talking down to you Sparks. I (and I'll bet everyone else here on PT) appreciates what your husband and others do in the line of service for this country. A well appreciated job!!!

Not to demean or diminish his service one bit, but there are some others who are also serving currently in Iraq - who do not understand why they are there or what the plan of action is. I know some and I am sure others do as well. To be fair, I am equally sure that there are scores of men (and women) who feel the mission is warranted if even unclear.

I guess I just don't see the Press as the OP-PRESSIVE force you do - but then, it is not as close or personal to me as you. Thanks for your fireback and steadiness on your position. Just remember, when push comes to shove - we are "ALL" Americans and we got your back!!!

P.S. I think it is that name that got some inflamed - SPARKS!!! LOL! That's just like pickin' a fight!!!

**sparks19** · 06-23-2006, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by BOBS DAD

Sorry if you felt anyone was talking down to you Sparks. I (and I'll bet everyone else here on PT) appreciates what your husband and others do in the line of service for this country. A well appreciated job!!!

Not to demean or diminish his service one bit, but there are some others who are also serving currently in Iraq - who do not understand why they are there or what the plan of action is. I know some and I am sure others do as well. To be fair, I am equally sure that there are scores of men (and women) who feel the mission is warranted if even unclear.

I guess I just don't see the Press as the OP-PRESSIVE force you do - but then, it is not as close or personal to me as you. Thanks for your fireback and steadiness on your position. Just remember, when push comes to shove - we are "ALL" Americans and we got your back!!!

P.S. I think it is that name that got some inflamed - SPARKS!!! LOL! That's just like pickin' a fight!!!

LOL don't blame me for the name

It was bestowed upon me long ago lol.

I can appreciate those that have a different opinion. In fact, how do we ever learn anything new if we won't listen to both sides of the discussion.

You stated your position clearly and without judgement. I like that.

I know there are many over in Iraq who aren't really sure what they are there for but they are there and I appreciate their willingness to do so. I know I couldn't do what they do.

**Lizzie** · 06-23-2006, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Bob... I will attempt a translation....
.....
So you see, Bob, if we would just allow the government to control "The Press" (while they are listening to our phone conversations, tracking our library books, breaking into our homes without a search warrant, etc.) life would be wonderful....all terrorist would disappear and peace would rule!

Ergo, the terrorists are really opposed to the "the press" and not governments.

Wouldn't that be lovely since "the press" are surely easier to control than any government even though the latter is voted in.

I'm glad you spoke up, Bob's Dad, because the diatribe made my head spin also. It seems to be in the style of Hunter S. Thompson; a writing style which I admired for its individuality while disliking it on a personal level.

I think Richard is sniping at the people who believe the press is perpetuating the war for their own profitable ends. I've known some journalists for the major newspapers, and I've known a few people who went off to the Pentagon and places more secret, and I've known a few civil servant type politicians. I'm inclined to trust the journalists most.

**caseysmom** · 06-23-2006, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by BOBS DAD

Richard,

I am not sure I understand your point(s) - "endless" points???

Were you drunk when you typed the last post?

Catland was buying all the drinks so obviously Richard indulged himself

**RICHARD** · 06-24-2006, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by BOBS DAD

Richard,

I am not sure I understand your point(s) - "endless" points???

Were you drunk when you typed the last post?

It's really not nice to make fun of obnoxious drunks.

Writing with a monkey on my back has it's challenges.
He whispers non sequiturs in my ear and I cannot help but transcribe.

Actually
My point was regarding the press, the consumers and the idiots that make the news.

I usually try to insult everyone with a post like that,

If you like linear thinking and intelligence, please pass on my posts.

Nut then again, I'm like "Katrina Lite" -all wind and no damamge.

**RICHARD** · 07-02-2006, 02:29 AM

Sophie Choi from CNN news made this comment about the car bomb that killed 60 and wounded about 100 people in open air market in Iraq on Saturday.

She said something like-"It was the worst day of violence since Al Zar Wacky was killed last month".

We drop a bomb on a house where some AH terrorist is living - 4 people died in the blast...

All of a sudden we are compared with some soulless bees turds that plant a bomb in a market place?

No, no worries about the media....

Like the story about the woman, an illegal alien with no insurance or driver's license, who is thrown into jail because the cop that pulled her over finds some overdue books in her car and tossed her arse into jail....

Had she t-boned an SUV with a doctor, lawyer or cop in it. and killed someone in the accident, that same media outlet would run a 5 day series about the dangers of illegal alien drivers taking over the roads.

There are three things that newspapers are good for.

Lining the bird cage, wrapping fish and wiping when you run out of toilet paper....

That's what I like about the internet...

The cords are too short to reach the BR!

**Dorothy39** · 07-02-2006, 10:18 AM

I've heard they are also good for washing windows!!!

Ever read "Walden Pond?" by Henry David Thoreau?

It is worth reading, trust me.

Not judging you, I am not a judger!!! When you can find a copy of "walden Pond" , buy it. You will see what I mean.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 07-02-2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

No, no worries about the media....

Like the story about the woman, an illegal alien with no insurance or driver's license, who is thrown into jail because the cop that pulled her over finds some overdue books in her car and tossed her arse into jail....

Oh RICHARD!

Baffled, I went back and read again about the overdue library book lady. NOWHERE did I see anything about her being an illegal alien.

So is that the fault of the media or the medior?

**sparks19** · 07-02-2006, 12:02 PM

HMMM funny amongst all your sarcasm

there is no mention of the lastest events involving the press. and just to be specific for those that don't get it.... The New York Times. Now I know you heard about this but yet no mention of it. Why? OH because it proves my point

[QUOTE]There are three things that newspapers are good for.

Lining the bird cage, wrapping fish and wiping when you run out of toilet paper....

That's what I like about the internet...

The cords are too short to reach the BR![/QUOTE]

Unless you have a wireless connection then you could be on the PC while you have a BM HAHA