Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Technologies are being forced to the fore as solutions when the solution may be worse than the current problem. (example, the hydrogen car, generating hydrogen takes electricity, which we get from where? largely fossil fuel burning power plants, which we will need more of if we are going to generate enough hydrogen to useit as a fuel)

I don't think global warming is a hoax, I just don't think all the facts are in yet.
Lady's Human,

You and I have chatted before and we have agreed that we likely don't agree on much. Other than the fact that we both agreed that in "disagreeing", nothing was personal. I respect you for that and it makes for a much better world when folks allow for dissent and hold nothing against those they strongly disagree with (even if you think I am an ignoramous at heart)!!! LOL.

Unfortuneatly (as you may have suspected), I disagree with you again!!! You say that others are always jumping the gun and sounding off before they get their facts straight, but it does seem that you yourself are often guilty of this. When we last debated on gasoline powered cars, you said that, "The dirty, obsolete fuel source we use for autos is also the dirty, obsolete fuel source that we use for half of our electricity, being that "environmentalists" have torpedoed wind farms, solar farms, nuclear power plants, and clean coal tech".

That was an impressive and very persuasive comeback... until you consider how inaccurate it is. I responded by telling you,

" I think your statistics on oil for electricity production are a little off. In fact, I think that very little oil is "still" being used to generate electricty. Yes...Oil is the largest source of energy in the United States, providing close to 40 percent of all of the nation's entire power needs. BUT most oil is used for transportation or home heating purposes, while a small percentage is still used as a fuel for electricity generating plants.

While oil continues to decline in popularity as an electricity fuel, in places such as New York (your state), oil still comprises about 8 and only 8 percent or less of the state's electricity fuel mix".

You seemed to be in favor of the current administration's stand on oil production and the drilling for more and used inaccurate information to better support your case - EVEN though the actual data and statistics on the subject are readily available to you on-line! Now that you have some correct information on "electricity" available to you and at your disposal, you contort it for the purposes of disputing "another good idea" in hydrogen powered engines.

I get the impression that if I said that black was black, you would say that there is "no scientific evidence" to support my theory and that no "in-depth studies" have been done to prove that fact. You might even suggest back to me that black "might" be white"! BUT if I first told you that I was a REPUBLICAN, prayed in a Presbyterian Church and said the National Anthem to start my day... you would be more inclined to accept my premise.