View Poll Results: What do you think of hunting.

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  • I hunt for sport and the chalenge in it.

    0 0%
  • I dont do it at all its horrible and crewl.

    24 72.73%
  • I hunt but I use the hole animal not just for fur and only take so many animals.

    9 27.27%
  • I do it for clothing and carpets and hats and money.

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  1. #1
    If there was a coyote they could have used a sleeping gun or a trap and set it way up north far away from the farm there was no need to shoot this animal there are plenty of ways to stop a wild animal population with out killing.

    There is no real difference between a cat and dog to a deer and racoon ok so what the deer and racoon live outside that still does not give hunters a right to shoot them.Just say you switch things and your animals become wild and know how to fend for them selves then these ppl come and shoot them because they say those cats and dogs started eating our plants.

    I just wish some ppl could realy see how much this animal is in pain I mean when some ppl shoot an aniamal they say it has no pain amd no fear.

    Than why the hec was it running away from that gun shot Daaa because it would have felt pain like a natural preditore biting its leg. That deer did NOT want to die or feel pain so thats why it was running.Animals can't shoot down the population of us humans and when they try to they get shot.

    One boy in some countrey was sitting and reading when a tiger grabed him by the neck and killed and ate the boy only because the human population has grown so much and moved into the tigers land and I do feel sorry for the boy but maybe these ppl should have NOT moved so close to the forests I mean these ppl actualy knew there where tigers in the forest.

    Baby's keep comming in the human life and I think having 9 kids is way too many 1 to 3 kids is ok but we need to stop builidng houses onto the wild life lands. Animals where around WAY before us humans where they realy own the forests and there homes NOT us we just came like a pest on this earth and our numbers in population have gone WAY up In china coulples can only have 1 child and if they have another it MUST be adopted by law we dont want that to happen in other coutries.

    I realy dont know what this earth is comming to.

  2. #2
    Hunting is a very effective means of wildlife management in areas where humans have removed large predators from the food chain. (prime example is the northeast US deer population). The deer have more woodlands than they have had in a century or so, as previously farmed lands have been left to nature. What they don't have is a predator to keep the population in check.

    In third world countries people live in areas with wildlife, have for hundreds if not thousands of years, and large predators kill humans fairly routinely. It's been going on since time immemorial, and has nothing to do with any modern trend.

    As to China's one child policy, it is a failure, and where it is enforced, it is brutally enforced. Adoption is not an official solution, if the government find out a woman is pregnant with a second child, forced abortion is the official state answer. Given that chinese society values male children more than female children, the one child policy has essentially produced a lopsided population, where in the near term men will far outnumber the women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    As to China's one child policy, it is a failure, and where it is enforced, it is brutally enforced. Adoption is not an official solution, if the government find out a woman is pregnant with a second child, forced abortion is the official state answer. Given that chinese society values male children more than female children, the one child policy has essentially produced a lopsided population, where in the near term men will far outnumber the women.
    That is correct. Not to mention, the secret killing of baby girls in hopes of bearing a boy the next time!!! Also, in countries where there is no state run limit for offspring (such as in the U.S.) the population has stabilized, primarily because of education and economics, and has remained so now for several decades!!!

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Argranade
    If there was a coyote they could have used a sleeping gun or a trap and set it way up north far away from the farm there was no need to shoot this animal there are plenty of ways to stop a wild animal population with out killing.
    Oh yes lets trap an animal that isn't acting completly normal & dump it into someone elses yard.. No thanks.. A wild animal like that shouldn't reproduce as its young will not be nearly as fearful & that can cause even more problems. Keep the fearfull animals around to keep the genes in check. Besides the farm dogs need to eat anyways. Also it was the first coyotte the farmer even had to consider to shoot in over 10yrs I think it was. SO its not like hes killing every thing in sight.. he didn't want to kill it but it needed to be done.

    Also when you shoot an animal properly, there is NO pain & NO fear. How can anything feel pain when its dead before it hits the ground? Trust me when things are done right, there is no suffering at all. We didn't practice at the range for nothing. We're not animals (as in the bad sence), so things need to be done in 1 shot. If you have to shoot an animal a 2ed time, or it runs off & then dies, THATS wrong!! Also we were using the 300WINMAG. Shot anythere near the chest would kill the animal faster then anything, as the chest would litterly turn to mush..we were using strong ammo for this coyotte so there were be no errors made, as the coyotte would be quite far away.. about 1/2 km..
    Last edited by king2005; 06-12-2006 at 03:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king2005
    Oh yes lets trap an animal that isn't acting completly normal & dump it into someone elses yard.. No thanks.. A wild animal like that shouldn't reproduce as its young will not be nearly as fearful & that can cause even more problems. Keep the fearfull animals around to keep the genes in check. Besides the farm dogs need to eat anyways. Also it was the first coyotte the farmer even had to consider to shoot in over 10yrs I think it was. SO its not like hes killing every thing in sight.. he didn't want to kill it but it needed to be done.
    Actually, if you look at this coyote from an evolutionary perspective- this animal (and it's potential offspring) is more "fit," not neccessarily abnormal. It certainly seems to have a good knack for getting food, which is an excellent survival technique! Coyotes and other predators do not know that certain animals are off-limits, they just take what they can get, and captive animals make pretty easy prey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
    Actually, if you look at this coyote from an evolutionary perspective- this animal (and it's potential offspring) is more "fit," not neccessarily abnormal. It certainly seems to have a good knack for getting food, which is an excellent survival technique! Coyotes and other predators do not know that certain animals are off-limits, they just take what they can get, and captive animals make pretty easy prey.
    well I know that lol
    But being fearless is a big issue & no wild animal should be fearless like this coyotte. The farmers family has even chased after it.. they were able to get 500 yards from it & thats not good (they were yelling too).

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    Argranade - I'm just curious (not trying to start an argument or anything ) but how do you feel about commercial meat, such as what you might buy in a grocery store? Are you a vegetarian? Like I said, I'm just curious, not trying to start anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenBKR
    Argranade - I'm just curious (not trying to start an argument or anything ) but how do you feel about commercial meat, such as what you might buy in a grocery store? Are you a vegetarian? Like I said, I'm just curious, not trying to start anything
    Oh Im becoming one [ I only had about 3 peices of meat in one month im getting there] Its even worse for commercial meat it brought me to tears seing [On peta] that its horrible how those animals have to die and its even more sick.

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