View Poll Results: What do you think of hunting.

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  • I hunt for sport and the chalenge in it.

    0 0%
  • I dont do it at all its horrible and crewl.

    24 72.73%
  • I hunt but I use the hole animal not just for fur and only take so many animals.

    9 27.27%
  • I do it for clothing and carpets and hats and money.

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  1. #1
    Nothing wrong with Hunting, its Sport hunting that makes me & real hunters sick!!

    (someone posted this in P2)
    People eat bear & wolves. Bear hunting is carefully watched & banned when the population is under ccontrol. Once the population is too high the hunting is opened again.

    Canned hunting isn't hunting. Its tourturing an animal until it dies!! I saw it on tv & it was horrible. The guy shot the Hog so many times with arrows, that the Hog looked like a porqupine!!

    Also nothing wrong with using a bow for hunting. Its quieter & won't scare the heck out of near by animals. When bow hunting is done properly the animal just drops dead. If you cannot use a powerful enough bow to kill a deer quickly in 1 shot, you shouldn't be bow hunting!!

    ^ Samething when using a shotgun or rifle. If you cannot drop it in 1 shot then you shouldn't be hunting !!

    I went hunting for a problem Coyotte last summer. He was not scared of people, was killing Organic sheep left right & center, & wouldn't run away when the farm dogs started barking (the farm dogs could almost get up to him before he ran away). Never did see him, but later found out the farm down the road got him that night. The farmer I & my ex was helping isn't a fan of killing them. He said he sees them all the time, but the second the farm dogs bark & run, the yotts run off. He said he looses a couple sheep/yr & thats ok, no biggy, but 30 in a month from 1 yotte is TOO much.... If we had shot the problem coyotte he would have been fed to the farm dogs (no such thing as dog kibble), so it wouldn't have been wasted.

  2. #2
    If there was a coyote they could have used a sleeping gun or a trap and set it way up north far away from the farm there was no need to shoot this animal there are plenty of ways to stop a wild animal population with out killing.

    There is no real difference between a cat and dog to a deer and racoon ok so what the deer and racoon live outside that still does not give hunters a right to shoot them.Just say you switch things and your animals become wild and know how to fend for them selves then these ppl come and shoot them because they say those cats and dogs started eating our plants.

    I just wish some ppl could realy see how much this animal is in pain I mean when some ppl shoot an aniamal they say it has no pain amd no fear.

    Than why the hec was it running away from that gun shot Daaa because it would have felt pain like a natural preditore biting its leg. That deer did NOT want to die or feel pain so thats why it was running.Animals can't shoot down the population of us humans and when they try to they get shot.

    One boy in some countrey was sitting and reading when a tiger grabed him by the neck and killed and ate the boy only because the human population has grown so much and moved into the tigers land and I do feel sorry for the boy but maybe these ppl should have NOT moved so close to the forests I mean these ppl actualy knew there where tigers in the forest.

    Baby's keep comming in the human life and I think having 9 kids is way too many 1 to 3 kids is ok but we need to stop builidng houses onto the wild life lands. Animals where around WAY before us humans where they realy own the forests and there homes NOT us we just came like a pest on this earth and our numbers in population have gone WAY up In china coulples can only have 1 child and if they have another it MUST be adopted by law we dont want that to happen in other coutries.

    I realy dont know what this earth is comming to.

  3. #3
    Hunting is a very effective means of wildlife management in areas where humans have removed large predators from the food chain. (prime example is the northeast US deer population). The deer have more woodlands than they have had in a century or so, as previously farmed lands have been left to nature. What they don't have is a predator to keep the population in check.

    In third world countries people live in areas with wildlife, have for hundreds if not thousands of years, and large predators kill humans fairly routinely. It's been going on since time immemorial, and has nothing to do with any modern trend.

    As to China's one child policy, it is a failure, and where it is enforced, it is brutally enforced. Adoption is not an official solution, if the government find out a woman is pregnant with a second child, forced abortion is the official state answer. Given that chinese society values male children more than female children, the one child policy has essentially produced a lopsided population, where in the near term men will far outnumber the women.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Argranade
    If there was a coyote they could have used a sleeping gun or a trap and set it way up north far away from the farm there was no need to shoot this animal there are plenty of ways to stop a wild animal population with out killing.
    Oh yes lets trap an animal that isn't acting completly normal & dump it into someone elses yard.. No thanks.. A wild animal like that shouldn't reproduce as its young will not be nearly as fearful & that can cause even more problems. Keep the fearfull animals around to keep the genes in check. Besides the farm dogs need to eat anyways. Also it was the first coyotte the farmer even had to consider to shoot in over 10yrs I think it was. SO its not like hes killing every thing in sight.. he didn't want to kill it but it needed to be done.

    Also when you shoot an animal properly, there is NO pain & NO fear. How can anything feel pain when its dead before it hits the ground? Trust me when things are done right, there is no suffering at all. We didn't practice at the range for nothing. We're not animals (as in the bad sence), so things need to be done in 1 shot. If you have to shoot an animal a 2ed time, or it runs off & then dies, THATS wrong!! Also we were using the 300WINMAG. Shot anythere near the chest would kill the animal faster then anything, as the chest would litterly turn to mush..we were using strong ammo for this coyotte so there were be no errors made, as the coyotte would be quite far away.. about 1/2 km..
    Last edited by king2005; 06-12-2006 at 03:35 PM.

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    Argranade - I'm just curious (not trying to start an argument or anything ) but how do you feel about commercial meat, such as what you might buy in a grocery store? Are you a vegetarian? Like I said, I'm just curious, not trying to start anything

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    Depends on what you're hunting and why...

    If you're hunting a Wolf, Coyote, Bear, etc. I don't agree with it at all because those are animals people don't eat (atleast, I've never heard of it anyway). If you're hunting and taking home a few rabbits/hares, ducks, geese, etc. I don't have a problem with it if you're going to use all of the meat on the animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangutango
    If you're hunting a Wolf, Coyote, Bear, etc. I don't agree with it at all because those are animals people don't eat (atleast, I've never heard of it anyway). .
    Lots of people eat bear, at least up here. It's a dang hard meat to cook properly and cook improperly it's disgusting. Cooked right, it's not bad.

    The only time I agree with hunting coyote & wolves is when they are direct threat to me and mine. The next wolf who tries to come into my yard and eat my dogs is a dead wolf.

    My husband is a hunter. Wild game feeds my family--human and canine. I can't remember the last time we bought meat. We use everything from an animal. Stuart is Cree so he also does a traditionally ceremony to thank the animal for giving up it's life. We eat the meat, the dogs eat the bones and any scrap meat. My f-i-l is a carver. He turns the antler into beautiful art. We give the hides to a First Nation's elder who tans them, unless we want the leather. In that case we send it out to a tannery in Alberta. (that's where this year's bison hide is). I don't eat organ meat, but we know people who do so the liver, heart and kidneys get given to friends.

    IMO, hunting done properly, is much more humane to the animal than a commericial feed lot. Ever been to a feed lot? The animals are terrified. They are packed practically on top of each other with no room to move. At least a hunted moose gets to spend it's life in it's natural surroundings; they aren't fed steriods to get more meat faster; if the hunter is a good shot(and you shouldn't be hunting if you aren't), the animal dies quickly and relatively painlessly.

    It is illegal in the Yukon to use a dog or other animal to assist in hunting. A lab can go retrieve a bird, but chasing a fox, ect is illegal. You can actually get a fine if you're just walking your dog and it decides to chase a moose(a bad idea and potentially fatal for the dog in any case). "Harassing wildlife" or "allowing an animal to harass wildlife" can lead to pretty serious punishment.
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