Lol! I never saw that. Yeah, Reuben was pretty ugly. Now that I think of it, Clay wasn't quite as bad as Reuben. I guess it just depends on point of veiw. Some people like Mandisa think Reuben is awsome, just like there are those that think Clay was hot before the emo hair.(And there are some that think he was hot before and are outraged at him for changing because he looks like a Beetle/mop after cleaning maple syrup)