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    Thats A Shame If You Have To Give Up Ally.
    I Would Think A Cat Thats A Mil Chomper Would Prove Quite Useful.
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    I'm so sorry things haven't improved with Ally.

    If the rescue remedy helps you can count me in to send you some!

    From Decker with Love

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    Thanks so very much for all your kind words and offers to help.

    Jen - I could not have put it better myself - you helped put into words how NOT every cat is adoptable, as unfortunate as that is.

    I have been thinking constantly about this, and discussed it with Warren - as we see it there are a couple of options:

    1. I would very much like to try the Amitriptyline or similar medication in a gel or cream. Is there anyone who would be able to ship it to my NY courier address *it would need to be packaged up with a couple of cheap toys or something so it looks like a gift and should sneak through customs*. Preferably someone with a PAYPAL account, because that would make it easy for me to re-imburse and pay post charges etc.

    2. How long do these meds take to work? I reakon I've got 6 months to get Ally sorted out before she becomes a real risk to Cali, as at the moment they don't have much contact with each other, but once Cali gets more mobile it will become a problem.

    3. IF the meds don't work, and IF I can get the money together, my MIL will give Connor a home in South Africa. I'm not sure if that will bring the "old" Ally back - I'd hate to rehome Connor, then if Ally didn't change I'd have to have her PTS and I'd end up with NO cats

    4. I am also in touch with a pet communicator (a different one from last time) to see if I can understand Ally and Connor's feelings better and try to help them.

    Thanks again to everyone - I love you guys!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by catmandu
    Thats A Shame If You Have To Give Up Ally.
    I Would Think A Cat Thats A Mil Chomper Would Prove Quite Useful.
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    ROTFLMAO Gary!!!!

    Thanks Kay for my great sig & avatar!!!
    Kissy 1993 (?) - 13 Oct 2005. Always in my heart.
    Ally Cat's Mommy

    "It's a matter of taking the side of the weak against the strong, something the best people have always done." Harriet Beecher-Stowe.

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    I'm sorry to hear you may have to let Ally go, but of course you can't risk Cali gets bitten. As you mentioned, the reason may be that she just doen't get along with Connor, but I really hope it won't be neccesary to take Connor to S.A. Conner seems to be such a sweet cat.

    Sorry I can't help with advice, just want to say I'll be sending positive vibes that you find a solution soon.

    ((((hugs))))



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    Can the Amitriptyline or similar medication be purchased over the counter or would it have to come from a vet - need a prescription?

    From Decker with Love

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    Julie, I would be happy to ship it to you. I also have a PAYPAL account. Just let me know where to get it. I think I still have your NY address, too. Just say the word!




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    Amitriptyline and similar are prescription drugs and I'm sure a vet in Bah'rain would be able to prescribe. However, not many pharmacies can make it up into a gel, and possibly not where you live.

    I just got off the phone with the pharmacist who makes the special meds for me and she told me good news and bad news. Amitriptyline, and other anti-aggresion/anti-anxiety medications can be made up into a massage gel. However, it's active life is only 30 days from the time it is made up. They do put little cold packs into the envelope when they send them to me, but I don't know how fast mail can get to you. Also, you would need to work with a vet in the U.S. because they didn't think they could work from a prescription from a vet in Bahrain.

    The drugs can take up to 2 months to show effect and there is no guarantee that they will, or that they won't cause other problems. I used both Buspar (which worked quickly but too strongly) and Amitriptyline (which worked within weeks and did work well) on my Artful Dodger, who was super aggresive and made my other cats' lives a misery. I should have cut back on the Buspar dosage, as they told me later, but seeing Dodger look like a cabbage horrified me so much that I switched to another med. It can have a dopey effect at first but the cat adjusts and then it just helps with the aggression. I tried Clomicalm with Taranis, for spraying, and it worked but made her pee only once every 36 hours which isn't good for a cat who is prone to crystals. She is on a Prozac derivative now and after a month, I've seen only a very slight change in her behavior. Since your need is urgent, and you need to really clobber her with something, it seems that Buspar or Amitriptyline would be best - but that's up to a vet.

    I sincerely hope I haven't got your hopes up only to dash them. Dealing with extreme personality problems is really distressing.

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    I have not been on all day- just because I was afraid of this thread. I am so glad there may be some other options. I'm not much help here I know- but you know Ally was so lucky - that she found a home in a place like Bahrain where many kitties won't have the chance- and now to think that this home could be her end as well .
    I keep my fingers crossed.

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    I tried amitritylin in cream form for Sterling at the begining when he was hard to pill (for spraying). In my case, the cream did not work as well as the pill. I also tried the amitriptylin in a treat form (suppose to just eat it on their own because it tastes good) and he would not touch them. BUT, Ally could be different. OR you may want to go the route of the stonger medication.

    Is there ANY BODY, a friend or neighbor, who could keep Connor temporarily to "test" if Ally will revert to her old self. I would sure hate to see Connor go away and Ally still being aggressive.
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    Please tell me if it is out of line.

    But as a last resort, if it is to save Ally's life, could you have Ally's front teeth removed surgically?

    And a declaw, if neccessary.

    I am generally very against declawing, but the alternative seems grim.

    Forgive me for mentioning such desparate measures.

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