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    They were giving a small tax break on purchasing hybrid cars but they have since phased that out. There is still a tax break for buying SUVs though...
    That's what I mean!!! Geesh, it has to be real and worth while or no-one will bite. A genuine, real tax incentive to invest in yours and your children's furure and security. I remember his "dis"incentive to buy a Hybrid. It was a joke. It came no-where near offsetting the financial burden to you (the participant) and enticing you to "make" the leap. IT WAS REAL JOKE - AND MADE ME MAD. Sort of like that tax break he talks about. And some people are really big on... I got back $600.00. I spent it immediately on some overdue bill. I certainly did not use it to spearhead the economy!!! Although I did hear that Billionaires got back hundreds of thousands. I wonder what they spent it on???

    C'MON... WE DO NOT, HAVE NOT and WILL NOT NEED OIL!!! It's an obsolete, dirty means of powering cars. We have the technology to say ENOUGH is ENOUGH. We don't want anymore. We don't care how much it is a barrel!!! We are going OILFREE by 08!!!

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    Luckily, I fell asleep on the couch before his speech started and woke up just before it ended.....If only I slept a few minutes longer.

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    C'MON... WE DO NOT, HAVE NOT and WILL NOT NEED OIL!!! It's an obsolete, dirty means of powering cars.
    But wait! Don't we really really need it? Isn't that why we need to drill in protected lands in Alaska?

    ~please note sarcasm...

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    Ever think the Billionaires got back hundreds of thousands in tax cuts because they pay millions in taxes?

    The dirty, obsolete fuel source we use for autos is also the dirty, obsolete fuel source that we use for half of our electricity, being that "environmentalists" have torpedoed wind farms, solar farms, nuclear power plants, and clean coal tech.

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    Actually... yes I did think that! And I understand and agree that you get back fairly what you paid into the tax base. But my complaint with the whole plan is that I really could have survived without the $600.00 and would have gladly passed on it in an effort to lower our federal deficit.

    Oil "is" dirty and obsolete! It is the original combustible fuel for the automobile engine. We have so many alternatives now that to continue our reliance on it is insane. Yes, clean coal is one of them. In fact, clean coal is the primary generator of "electricity" as an alternative to oil. Hydrogen is even better, considering that it is in infinite abundance. My point is that America has the the world's greatest minds and is a leader in technology. If we can build a bomb, we can make an alternative to oil. WE JUST HAVE TO "WANT" TO!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Ever think the Billionaires got back hundreds of thousands in tax cuts because they pay millions in taxes?

    The dirty, obsolete fuel source we use for autos is also the dirty, obsolete fuel source that we use for half of our electricity, being that "environmentalists" have torpedoed wind farms, solar farms, nuclear power plants, and clean coal tech.
    I think your statistics on oil for electricity production are a little off. In fact, I think that very little oil is "still" being used to generate electricty. Yes...Oil is the largest source of energy in the United States, providing close to 40 percent of all of the nation's entire power needs. BUT most oil is used for transportation or home heating purposes, while a small percentage is still used as a fuel for electricity generating plants.

    While oil continues to decline in popularity as an electricity fuel, in places such as New York (your state), oil still comprises about 8 and only 8 percent or less of the state's electricity fuel mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Ever think the Billionaires got back hundreds of thousands in tax cuts because they pay millions in taxes?
    You know, if rich people were taxed like the rest of us, it would be fair, but they pay a MUCH smaller percetage of their income in taxes. When I get my paycheck 22% is gone just from SS, Medicare, fed & state taxes. Rich people do not pay that much!

    For example, you are taxed for SS only on your first $88,000 or so...which means someone pulling in $500,000 per year pays SS tax on only 17% of their income! This places an unfair burden on the working class, and the Bush administration only worsens it by giving the obsenely weathly further breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
    You know, if rich people were taxed like the rest of us, it would be fair, but they pay a MUCH smaller percetage of their income in taxes. When I get my paycheck 22% is gone just from SS, Medicare, fed & state taxes. Rich people do not pay that much!

    For example, you are taxed for SS only on your first $88,000 or so...which means someone pulling in $500,000 per year pays SS tax on only 17% of their income! This places an unfair burden on the working class, and the Bush administration only worsens it by giving the obsenely weathly further breaks.

    Totally agree with you. It's a fact that I meant to comment on also.
    The fallacy that the rich pay their fair portion of taxes is bogus at best.
    They have better tax lawyers & have a better selection of loopholes to
    avoid paying much, if anything.
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    Someone explain to me why if he's so in favor of stopping illegal immigration and boarder security that he wants to put national guard troops on the boarder, why a few months ago he was willing to hand over control of some of our ports to a foreign company?

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    It wasn't control of the ports, it was management of container terminals at port facilities. While I have issues with that, it was a far less dangerous deal than the media made it out to be.

  11. Perhaps it was the underhanded, secretive, hypocritical manner in which the deal went down that caused such a turmoil? I didn' think it a bad deal....but the way it was done....opps.....I left out arrogant....

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    ES, Can't argue with you there. If you recall the Port of Long Beach was almost sold to the Chinese Government in a similar deal in the '90s. (Point being arrogance and secrecy don't belong to any one party)

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