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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    The reason that the National Guard is the force in question rather than the regular army is Posse Comitatus. This law prevents federal military forces from being used in a law enforcement role within the borders of the United States.

    If anyone had any true intestinal fortitude (and this includes everyone on Capitol Hill, not just republicans or just democrats) they would revise Posse Comitatus and allow Federal Forces to be used on the border areas to protect the border. The excesses from the post-Civil War era are long since over, and like many other statutes that have gathered dust over the years need to be revised.
    I don't think so LH.

    Posse Comitatus, as is, does not prevent Federal troop action, just makes
    sure the State invites them in when needed.Local control, not Federal.

    Not sure what excesses from post Civil War era your talking about, but
    we the people (all of us) are still undergoing excesses from the federal
    level each & every day.
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    Posse Comitatus explicitly prohibits Federal troops from undertaking ANY mission that requires them to act in a law enforcement capacity. They cannot be used in any way, shape or form to enforce laws. This is why the rebuilding of New Orleans, for example, was started with a mix of troops, mostly National Guard. The Guard undertook law and order functions, and the active troops stuck strictly to helping rebuild. A state governor can request federal troop assistance, but it is strictly for labor, and those troops are barred from undertaking any enforcement activities whatsoever.

    Enforcement activities include enforcing US Border laws.
    Last edited by Lady's Human; 05-13-2006 at 10:43 PM.

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    Here we go..

    Not to be a jerk...

    We got our wish.....

    wait until the first gun battle goes down and bystanders are killed.

    Read the book "Hammerheads" by Dale Brown.

    Alot of good intentions gone awry there.

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    Herein can be found that rare native tree, the Presidential Timber, struck down in mid-sprout by the jawbone of a politician. Pogo returns to the swamp from a couple of political conventions to find his unfinished business being rapidly finished, once and for all, by rough and ready hands.

    "We Have Met The Enemy and He Is Us"

    w.k.

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    Richard,

    funny, I always thought "Hammerheads" was a pretty damned good idea. Unfortunately, CNN wouldn't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    Richard,

    funny, I always thought "Hammerheads" was a pretty damned good idea. Unfortunately, CNN wouldn't think so.
    The book was way ahead of it's time.....the "awry" part was the media's fault...in the book!

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