UK vs. USA dog shows

**binka_nugget** · 05-09-2006, 07:55 PM

I prefer UK standards.. ESPECIALLY for GSDs!

**bckrazy** · 05-09-2006, 08:47 PM

Lute, I think that has to do with the breed standards and working emphasis in Europe. I have talked to plenty of people who hate European Dobermans and Rotties, because they are much bigger boned. What they do not realize is, stick-thin AKC Dobes are not natural! They are bred that way because their purpose is to look pretty, not to really work. At least that's the impression I got from the Crufts Dane vs a lot of AKC Danes?

**zoomer** · 05-09-2006, 09:08 PM

I like the Boxer's ears in USA, I think they look good.

But I like the fact that UK doesn't have cropped/docked dogs. Well, they aren't part of the standard.

**wolfsoul** · 05-09-2006, 09:16 PM

I haven't read anything about UK standards so I can't answer the question -- but I must say, when I was researching UK show shelties, they were uuuugly (I'm used to seeing CKC and AKC show shelties).

It's really interesting though, to see the differences betweens breeds in different countries.

**Jessika** · 05-09-2006, 09:47 PM

You guys seem to forget -- Crufts is an international dog show, so you will have dogs being entered from places such as the US where they DO practice procedures such as cropping and docking, etc.

**cloverfdx** · 05-09-2006, 09:55 PM

Neither

. But if i had to choose it would be UK shows, for working/ cropping reasons

.

I despise the idea of dogs being judged on looks and not working ability.

**.sarah** · 05-09-2006, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by cloverfdx

I despise the idea of dogs being judged on looks and not working ability.

Ugh, me too. That is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to show breeders with working breeds. That CH should mean nothing unless if the dog has a working title too. The Lab parent club won't recognize a CH without a JH or WC but the AKC still does. And the sad part is, those are the easiest titles to obtain as long as your dog has the instinct! There's not much training that you have to do.

With dogs who aren't bred to work anymore or were never bred to work, like Great Danes, toy/miniature Poodles, etc., I think they should obtain agility or obedience titles before a CH is recognized.

**dogfighter2111** · 09-19-2006, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by zoomer

I like the Boxer's ears in USA, I think they look good.

But I like the fact that UK doesn't have cropped/docked dogs. Well, they aren't part of the standard.

Hi,

Actually we do have some Docked dogs in Crufts. For example my English Cocker has been docked. I beleive gundogs are allowed to be docked within the UK but no other breed. That goes with the shape of their use

Thanks
Mike