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  1. #1
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    Just wanted to add this. There wouldn't be so many people trying to
    enter this country at any cost, if there were not thousands of businesses
    so willing to hire them at very low rate of pay.They would rather hire the
    cheap labor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud
    Just wanted to add this. There wouldn't be so many people trying to
    enter this country at any cost, if there were not thousands of businesses
    so willing to hire them at very low rate of pay.They would rather hire the
    cheap labor.

    I agree. In many ways, this is an employer issue wrapped up in politics.

    If the employers didn't hire, the illegals wouldn't come. If we would enforce the current laws against hiring illegals, they couldn't come.

    Now why exactly do you supposed the laws are not really enforced? Just ask yourself who really benefits from allowing it to continue?

    (In this week's Tribune, an anonymous illegal worker described how her fast-food employer gets letters from the social security administration saying X number of SSNs were "not matching.")

    So, do you think it's hard to figure out where they're working?

    I myself believe in establishing a guest worker program as a way to manage it. If we want to hire them, then let's clean up the system and let them buy insurance, etc.

    The hypocrisy of building walls and adding border patrols while hundreds of thousands of businesses benefit from the cheap labor really irks me, though.

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    I saw a guy on the news the other day that was complaining because he couldn't get a job after he graduates with his bachelor's degree because he's illegal. Ummm, how did you get that degree? Financial aid on a phony SSN? Excuse me. I didn't get a free education and I'm a born citizen. You just got a free ride and you're still complaining! Give me a break!

    Both of my Grandfathers were born in Mexico and came over when they were only 2. The borders weren't closed then. They both fought for our country, are both decorated with many awards and ribbons and upon their return, were threatened to be deported because they weren't citizens. After they both showed their war accomplishements, they were both granted citizenship. They EARNED it. They didn't break the law, do what they *wanted* to do, then cry when they had no rights.

    I better stop now...




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    My nephew was moving a bed, mattresses and other minor furniture in a truck a few weeks ago. He realized that he needed more ropes, cords, to tie everything down, or it would fall off of the truck on the freeway.

    He stopped at a Home Depot to buy the cords. As he pulled into the parking lot, he was mobbed - mobbed - by men running around his truck. His first thought was that they were going to steal items off of the truck, so he drove off - never did buy anything at Home Depot.

    But what I knew was that this mob of men are the usual group of 30 - 40 men hoping for some last minute job and a way to make some money.

    How many more can we accept? Does that crowd turn into 60 - 90 - how many? And this is just one Home Depot - they are all like that. How many are in the families of these people at home - waiting for the Dad to bring home money for the day - in cash?

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