He-larry-ass

[Cincy'sMom]

Since the hijacking seems to be the theme now, I'll jump in too...

I don't mean to speak for Liz, but I don't think she was trying to ask PCB specifically why "those people thought that way"., but more , is there a known history within the faith where these two groups do not get along.

In a less violent Christian example, Baptists and Catholic have very different even thought they are both Chrisitian faiths, espically when it comes to salvation. Although I am not Bastist, I have basic understanding of what these differences are and could do a basic overview. That isn't to say I could explain the thoughts of every person in either religion, but I think that is more onthe level of understanding Liz was looking for.

[K9soul]

That's a perspective I hadn't thought of it in (probably cause I was trying to see things from PCB's perspective), but that makes sense too. It could just be a matter of miscommunication/misunderstanding. Easy to do through writing, especially on emotional topics.

[lizbud]

Since the hijacking seems to be the theme now, I'll jump in too...

I don't mean to speak for Liz, but I don't think she was trying to ask PCB specifically why "those people thought that way"., but more , is there a known history within the faith where these two groups do not get along.

In a less violent Christian example, Baptists and Catholic have very different even thought they are both Chrisitian faiths, espically when it comes to salvation. Although I am not Bastist, I have basic understanding of what these differences are and could do a basic overview. That isn't to say I could explain the thoughts of every person in either religion, but I think that is more onthe level of understanding Liz was looking for.

Thanks Amy. That's exactly what I had in mind. I really didn't think my
post was that unintelligible, but misinterpretations happen. The differences
in the christan faith is a great example. Liz.

[Cataholic]

Alrighty now, folks! I love hijacking. It is always (well, usually) more interesting than the OP! And, since I was the OP, I can insult me, right?

As to the religion thingy, I want to add something. I was finishing up a David Baldacci book last night, and I can't remember the name. Anyhow, it involved a plot to kidnap the US president, and it was done by a team of claimed muslims/Islamics and some people here in the US.

That made me ponder something. In the last decade or so, I am not familar with "Christian" or "Jewish" terrorists groups taking out other "Christian" or "Jewish" (or Baptist, methos, luthers, etc) groups. BUT, I do see to have some recollection of Muslim or Islamic groups taking out other religious/government groups. And, I wonder why? I have the mind that it is more because of the extremist position this faith/religion/culture takes than anything else. I don't understand why it is done with the blessing/non stance/eye shutting action by, supposedly, the larger group that believes this is wrong. "This isn't what Allah meant" isn't good enough for me.

I know there are oddballs of all religions/faiths/cultures. But, this seems to be a significant group of people doing this sort of thing.

I 'blame' Islam because it IS Islam. That is what these terrorist groups state. These people aren't Catholics, are they? No, they are Islamic terrorist groups.

[lbaker]

Joh, you may get into trouble for that but I must agree ~ sadly enough. The Crusades had enough of that to disgust the world forever, how long before the "other" "good" Islam leaders stand up and say "ENOUGH!!" ?

[Cataholic]

Joh, you may get into trouble for that but I must agree ~ sadly enough.

No kidding. Sheesh.

I would hope anyone reading my post would recognize that I have nothing but the utmost respect and love for PCB, and do not include her in my statement. She is one of the least violent, most loving people I have 'met'.

[lbaker]

I'm sure that's very clear to all, including Pops

[K9soul]

I'm sure that's very clear to all, including Pops

Well I may be in the minority here but it's not clear to me at all.

I 'blame' Islam because it IS Islam.

I was very shocked to read such a statement and I don't know how in the world PCB WOULDN'T feel hurt by that. Islam is her faith, her whole world centers around it. To state that terrorism and violence is because of Islam just blows my mind. I thought on PT people were always talking about never lumping one group together as a whole and making judgment, being open minded and accepting of all faiths and cultures. Can one blame Christianity for the actions of the KKK (which I consider to be a terrorist organization), or catholicism for the IRA's actions? Much of the world views America and Americans as world terrorists. It's all a matter of point of view.

I'll probably get blasted in some way for this, which is why I generally stay away from topics like this and keep my opinions to myself, but I see Pops getting hurt and jumped on in this thread (i.e. Cagney) when all she has ever done was ask questions when she didn't understand something and state her own opinions with conviction but without being judgmental if others felt differently. Yes her faith is very important to her but she did not tell anyone else they needed to feel the same way or believe the same way, she just stated her OWN beliefs the same way everyone else is.

I guess I've said what I want to say. Blast away .