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[lizbud]

Calm yourself please. I did not ask to embarress or upset you. It's just
that you seemed to be welcoming to questions about Islam before and
went to great pains to answer questions for non-muslims.I apologize if
I offended you, that was not my intent.

[CagneyDog]

You know PCB, it's one thing to say this stuff and another to act on it.

Having partial knowledge is dangerous. Again, I stress on the fact that people need to either seek complete, proper knowledge of religions, cultures, and other people, or stay quiet.

Just from reading some of your posts around Pet talk I can honestly say that this is a fairly hypocritcal statement coming from you.

[K9soul]

Not trying to contribute to the 'hijacking' here, but I think PCB is always very willing to answer questions she can ABOUT her faith, but asking why certain people who supposedly are the same faith do certain things or act certain ways is something she can't answer, just as I can't answer why people of my faith or beliefs are able to do horrible things when it is against the faith's teachings. If someone said 'how come these Christians did this and this and this?' I really couldn't answer that either. And if I were asked that constantly I might get frustrated too. Didn't Hitler and his followers call themselves and believe themselves to be Christian? There is no way I could answer about how they could call themselves Christian and believe in the faith, and yet do the things they did. Just trying to see things from Pops' perspective.

[Cincy'sMom]

Since the hijacking seems to be the theme now, I'll jump in too...

I don't mean to speak for Liz, but I don't think she was trying to ask PCB specifically why "those people thought that way"., but more , is there a known history within the faith where these two groups do not get along.

In a less violent Christian example, Baptists and Catholic have very different even thought they are both Chrisitian faiths, espically when it comes to salvation. Although I am not Bastist, I have basic understanding of what these differences are and could do a basic overview. That isn't to say I could explain the thoughts of every person in either religion, but I think that is more onthe level of understanding Liz was looking for.

[K9soul]

That's a perspective I hadn't thought of it in (probably cause I was trying to see things from PCB's perspective), but that makes sense too. It could just be a matter of miscommunication/misunderstanding. Easy to do through writing, especially on emotional topics.

[lizbud]

Since the hijacking seems to be the theme now, I'll jump in too...

I don't mean to speak for Liz, but I don't think she was trying to ask PCB specifically why "those people thought that way"., but more , is there a known history within the faith where these two groups do not get along.

In a less violent Christian example, Baptists and Catholic have very different even thought they are both Chrisitian faiths, espically when it comes to salvation. Although I am not Bastist, I have basic understanding of what these differences are and could do a basic overview. That isn't to say I could explain the thoughts of every person in either religion, but I think that is more onthe level of understanding Liz was looking for.

Thanks Amy. That's exactly what I had in mind. I really didn't think my
post was that unintelligible, but misinterpretations happen. The differences
in the christan faith is a great example. Liz.

[Cataholic]

Alrighty now, folks! I love hijacking. It is always (well, usually) more interesting than the OP! And, since I was the OP, I can insult me, right?

As to the religion thingy, I want to add something. I was finishing up a David Baldacci book last night, and I can't remember the name. Anyhow, it involved a plot to kidnap the US president, and it was done by a team of claimed muslims/Islamics and some people here in the US.

That made me ponder something. In the last decade or so, I am not familar with "Christian" or "Jewish" terrorists groups taking out other "Christian" or "Jewish" (or Baptist, methos, luthers, etc) groups. BUT, I do see to have some recollection of Muslim or Islamic groups taking out other religious/government groups. And, I wonder why? I have the mind that it is more because of the extremist position this faith/religion/culture takes than anything else. I don't understand why it is done with the blessing/non stance/eye shutting action by, supposedly, the larger group that believes this is wrong. "This isn't what Allah meant" isn't good enough for me.

I know there are oddballs of all religions/faiths/cultures. But, this seems to be a significant group of people doing this sort of thing.

I 'blame' Islam because it IS Islam. That is what these terrorist groups state. These people aren't Catholics, are they? No, they are Islamic terrorist groups.

[lbaker]

Joh, you may get into trouble for that but I must agree ~ sadly enough. The Crusades had enough of that to disgust the world forever, how long before the "other" "good" Islam leaders stand up and say "ENOUGH!!" ?