Where do you stand?

[momoffuzzyfaces]

I'm for reform. We need to get those borders sealed - NOW!!!

I'm not against immigration. I'm all for it but through the legal channels.

I get really cheesed off seeing them wave the Mexican flag. HELLO!!! GO BACK TO MEXICO AND WAVE IT THERE!!! WE AREN'T THE UNITED STATES OF MEXICO - YET ANYWAY. Inspite of Dora the Explorer and all the other sneaky things being done to teach us Spanish instead of them learning English. (like making Spanish a REQUIRED class in schools and using Spanish on commercials and other tv shows)

One thing I wonder: If GB waved his magic wand (and I'm convinced he has one if only in his mind) and made every illegal here an American today; how long would they work at the wages they are currently being paid? I bet after a while they would say, Whoa! we are now Americans and deserve a better wage!! And they would be right!!! Physical labor is hard and can wreck your health. Seems strange that a country who is so agast at sweat shops in other countries, would allow such low wages to be paid here whether to illegals or not!!! Just something to think about!!!

And yes they do sap the resources; the kids can go to schools free and lots of them get free medical service. I can't do that even being disabled!!!

I just get mad when they are here illegally and demand RIGHTS!!! which they don't or shouldn't have since their being here is AGAINST THE LAW!!!

I think anyone who knowing hires illegals should be fined for each one hired. But that's just my opinion.

[Edwina's Secretary]

MOFF...there is a fine for each illegal hired knowingly by a company. There is a federal law, known as IRCA (Immigration Reform and Control Act) of, I think, 1986 or 1987 that sets out the fines.

I have a relative by marriage who was here for many years illegally. He did not drive a car nor go to a doctor out of fear. When he broke his leg a friend of mine who is a radiologist privately took the x-ray. But, as he was not legal all that meant was he in fact KNEW his leg was broken (I didn't have any orthopedic friends.... )

Just food for thought. What if we sealed the border with Mexico, a nearly impossible task? Could the results be a revolution in Mexico? A communist or other unpleasant US hating government on our flank? Then we could invade them (at what $$ and lost lives??)

It is not a simple problem and there are no simple solutions.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

MOFF...there is a fine for each illegal hired knowingly by a company. There is a federal law, known as IRCA (Immigration Reform and Control Act) of, I think, 1986 or 1987 that sets out the fines.

I have a relative by marriage who was here for many years illegally. He did not drive a car nor go to a doctor out of fear. When he broke his leg a friend of mine who is a radiologist privately took the x-ray. But, as he was not legal all that meant was he in fact KNEW his leg was broken (I didn't have any orthopedic friends.... )

Just food for thought. What if we sealed the border with Mexico, a nearly impossible task? Could the results be a revolution in Mexico? A communist or other unpleasant US hating government on our flank? Then we could invade them (at what $$ and lost lives??)

It is not a simple problem and there are no simple solutions.

A revolution in Mexico or one in the USA? Which would be best??? We are heading that way if something isn't done about this. There are already around 11 million illegals here and hundreds crossing in every day.

[Lobodeb]

A revolution in Mexico or one in the USA? Which would be best??? We are heading that way if something isn't done about this. There are already around 11 million illegals here and hundreds crossing in every day.

I wish I would have brought my camera with me today. The march has begun right outside my office window. Hootin', hollern' the whole 9.

It's about 10-15 people across and it's been going on for at least an hour now....going strong.

Mexican flags everywhere.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Without the money sent home by the illegal workers here, the poverty would be even worse in Mexico and those who were not working here would be unemployed there. Possible sending an already tottering country on our border over the edge.

This is why I support a guest worker program as a reform.

I do not see the same potential for revolution or an unsavory form of government (present administration excluded) here.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

well I'm completely annoyed with it all to be honest and I have 2 points on it. my family and I didnt expect german aisles in walmart when we got to America. we didnt expect products to be in german, and didnt expect people to understand german. if I'd known I'd have to learn a THIRD language and culture just to get by in america, I wouldnt of come back. you are practicly REQUIRED to speak spanish if your going to work 3rd shift at teflon (factory) here.... i'm in tennessee... which is in america... and americans speak english right?
I feel bad for getting just so angry at spanish on products and a mexican aisle in walmart and spanish billboards and signs and this and that but jeez.... if your giving ILLEGALS special treatment why not me? wheres my milchreis, my montelinos in walmart???

they broke the law, stop rewarding them for it. just because the cop didnt catch them in the act doesnt mean it should be forgiven. they wouldnt forgive me if i sold drugs or killed someone.

Those who are skipping school or work should be expelled/detention, and fired because if *I* missed a day at my job for something like this, thats what would happen to me.

I agree with you. Even lots of food labels (even the ones made in the US now have Spanish lables. Why not French too? If they are going to come to OUR country; they should do the changing not force us to.

Lots of signs on stores here now have both English and Spanish on them. Sure looks to me like they've already started taking over our country. Now, they demostrate for rights they are not entitled too. Come in legally and they are welcome but not sneaking in.

I realize not all of them want to stay here but need jobs. A better worker program would sure help.

[RICHARD]

I feel bad for getting just so angry at spanish on products and a mexican aisle in walmart and spanish billboards and signs and this and that but jeez....

My dad was from Mexico and I get mad at the Mex aisles in the store too...
The crap that passes as authentic really sucks!

But letting a "guest worker" law go into effect you will just invite more people and better forgers.

At this point the government is too busy to compare notes on who is here legally....Look at 9/11...I think we have just enough to figure things out but
none of the agencies took the time to compare notes.

by the way "GUEST WORKER" is another stupid phrase...If you are a guest you shouldn't be working-except when you go to Gini's house-she expects to be pampered!

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The next president, who looks like he is gonna be a Dem, better get his arse straight on this topic.

Mexico has so many natural resources that it makes me sick-and the reason
that the country is on the verge of collapse is that jerk FOX...his political party won - the same political party ran the country for 76 years...

They made it farther than communism..those frealing commies wanted to run the world, the politicos in Mexico just wanted to rule something.

Talk to the leaders.

Or send George Clooney down there, he has the answers...but then again, who will cut his lawn, or take care of his kids??

[Edwina's Secretary]

My dad was from Mexico and I get mad at the Mex aisles in the store too...
The crap that passes as authentic really sucks!

But letting a "guest worker" law go into effect you will just invite more people and better forgers.

At this point the government is too busy to compare notes on who is here legally....Look at 9/11...I think we have just enough to figure things out but
none of the agencies took the time to compare notes.

by the way "GUEST WORKER" is another stupid phrase...If you are a guest you shouldn't be working-except when you go to Gini's house-she expects to be pampered!

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The next president, who looks like he is gonna be a Dem, better get his arse straight on this topic.

Mexico has so many natural resources that it makes me sick-and the reason
that the country is on the verge of collapse is that jerk FOX...his political party won - the same political party ran the country for 76 years...

They made it farther than communism..those frealing commies wanted to run the world, the politicos in Mexico just wanted to rule something.

Talk to the leaders.

Or send George Clooney down there, he has the answers...but then again, who will cut his lawn, or take care of his kids??

You know RICHARD, I had a boss once who, every time I used a technical compensation term would say...."that's a stupid term!" And I always wondered....what am I suppose to do? Guest worker is a common term used....you don't like it....make up a better one for the concept. For some reason the governments of the world and the economists, etc., failed to consult with you before coming up with this term. ANd your example is grammatically incorrect. A working guest does not have the same meaning as guest worker.

Illegal immigrants are going to come to this country. A guest worker program...or whatever you care to call it it...would certainly be better than the current disaster.

Oh, and by the way.....

George Clooney doesn't have children and Fox belongs to PAN....which has NOT been the ruling party for 76 years. The ruling party in Mexico for decades before his election was PRI. Geez
(That's like calling Bush a Democrat!)