New Puppy and Cat has given Birth to 2 kittens

[Lori Jordan]

Ok i have had it!!!!Keep your reply's to yourself from here on out,You think your right do ya?You think you know it all?You must!I must be the only person in this world that had a batch of kittens...If your so into "shelters" why are most dogs in here purebred?I wonder what the breeders went through when you went to purchase your dogs also wonder how you treated me they say that this is such a great place to be hmm i wonder cause almost everything i have posted i have had my head ripped off so im done with making threads

[dab_20]

So how were your dogs brought into this world?

That isn't the point she was making.

We are not bashing you. If you read your threads, and then other posts, you are the one who is yelling at us. I think you need to go back and reread the posts.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Ok i have had it!!!!Keep your reply's to yourself from here on out,You think your right do ya?You think you know it all?You must!I must be the only person in this world that had a batch of kittens...If your so into "shelters" why are most dogs in here purebred?I wonder what the breeders went through when you went to purchase your dogs also wonder how you treated me they say that this is such a great place to be hmm i wonder cause almost everything i have posted i have had my head ripped off so im done with making threads

Don't get mad. We're just trying to help. I got yelled at and got this whole speech on shelter dogs when I decided to get a purebred Pom from a breeder, because Roxy lives on a chain, and because I had just lost Tink. I understand how it feels to be yelled at, but they're just trying to inform. Well, at least *I* am.

[Kfamr]

Ok i have had it!!!!Keep your reply's to yourself from here on out,You think your right do ya?You think you know it all?You must!I must be the only person in this world that had a batch of kittens...If your so into "shelters" why are most dogs in here purebred?I wonder what the breeders went through when you went to purchase your dogs also wonder how you treated me they say that this is such a great place to be hmm i wonder cause almost everything i have posted i have had my head ripped off so im done with making threads

NEWS FLASH! You can get pure bred dogs at shelters and breed specific rescues. Not EVERY purebred comes from a breeder. Also, there is a different between you and a responsible breeder, for instance, Luvofgold00! She is a very, very responsible breeder.



Quite possibly a forum isn't the place for you... you seem to have issues with accepting opinions and differing morals.

[K9soul]

I just wanted to point out that many dogs from shelters are purebred and when people talk about shelters and rescues that includes breed-specific rescues too. My golden retriever is a rescue. Just for clarification. Blowing up at people really doesn't do any good, it just gets yourself so upset that you can't see any sense in what some people may be saying, you shut yourself off to learning or considering different viewpoints. With that said, I wish you the best.

edit: I was posting the same time as Kay was.

[Vela]

So how were your dogs brought into this world?

Well if you must know, one was a rescue and one was from a reputable breeder who was trying to better the breed. There is a big difference between that and what happened here. I am as entitled to my opinons as you are to yours. Reputable breeders only do so to better the breed and don't go around just letting their animals breed because they don't bother to get them fixed. If you don't like getting others opinions then don't make posts, if you are going to make them be prepared to get opinons that go along with yours and those who go against yours, since we all have differing ones. There is nothing wrong with responsible breeding, but that is not what you did and you know it. There are kids on here who are not in charge of whether their pets get spayed or not and that's totally diffierent, it's not up to them. But you are an adult who can make that choice and if you aren't going to get them spayed, then it is up to you to be repsonsible enough not tolet them produce any more animals that we are already killing in the thousands each day. Like it or not that's the truth of it.

[caseysmom]

I have learned a bunch from pettalk and glad all the folks on here educated me. I did rescue casey but bubba I bought from an ad in the paper, from what I have learned here I would not do that again. I searched and searched the local shelters for a small dog and gave up.

We are never too old to learn from others, I have learned a lot from people half my age and I am not too proud to admit that. Sorry we hurt your feelings or you feel attacked.

[BC_MoM]

I know in some cases it is best to underestimate the best of people, especially in situations like these.

But what's wrong with having faith every one in a while that people will do the right thing?

I'm sure Lori will appropriately place the kittens. How about having faith in a fellow PTer?

[caseysmom]

BCmom I don't think that is the issue, those homes could place some kittens doomed for death in the shelters.

[Roxyluvsme13]

BCmom I don't think that is the issue, those homes could place some kittens doomed for death in the shelters.

But if these kittens wouldn't have had homes they would have ended up in shelters, too, most likely, and would, like other kittens, be doomed for death.

[BC_MoM]

BCmom I don't think that is the issue, those homes could place some kittens doomed for death in the shelters.

You're not understanding what I'm saying.

I'm sure Lori will appropriately place the kittens.

Reread that again. I didn't say she's going to give them to the first home that asks for a kitten just like that..

[.sarah]

I have four dogs, three are purebred. Can you tell which one is a rescue? Bet you can't. I volunteer frequently and work for my humane society. We have 13 dogs right now, 7 are purebred. There are also lots of purebred dogs at our shelter.

Please quit playing the guilt card. Some of us have made mistakes, but we have learned and we are trying to educate people so they won't do the same. This thread has stayed informative if you exclude your own defensive, finger-pointing posts. We are not bashing you, we are trying to help you. Please calm down and really read these posts. What's done is done, your cats will be/have given birth and we can't change that. What we are trying to change is you ever having any more "oops" litters. If you want to go about breeding responsibly, then I and most other Pet Talkers will most certainly support you, but if you are not willing to spend thousands of dollars to show you have a top-notch cat/dog, then spay your animals and let them lead healthy lives.

[Vela]

Don't get me wrong, I am glad the kittens have homes, I am glad she was responsible about that and is hopefully getting her cats fixed. It is often hard not to post in haste when someone starts yelling in their posts and having an uncaring attitude that this could have and should have been avoided and that's it's just fine to let our pets breed without a though to preventing it. I admit I replied in haste in one of my posts but neither of the others was meant to be anatgonistic, but the replies became so and I should have kept my calm. It get such an overwhelming sadness when I see things like that video and realize that they are all dying, and being dumped in the garbage!, just because people won't fix their pets. It's different if someone says, oh man I meant to get my cat fixed but she went into heat and got pregnant before I could get to it, and actually feels bad about it, but when it seems like the person is just like yeah whatever, who cares, it's frustrating. And it's a very emotion driven topic for all but when the OP gets antagonitstic it's hard for others not to. I know I didn't feel that way until the OP acted like she knew it all and was smarter than everyone and it was just fine and dandy. I am done posting in this thread, I wish good luck to the moms and babies and hope they don't end up with any more litters.

[My Peanuts]

I know in some cases it is best to underestimate the best of people, especially in situations like these.

But what's wrong with having faith every one in a while that people will do the right thing?

I'm sure Lori will appropriately place the kittens. How about having faith in a fellow PTer?

I do have faith that she will place them. That part isn't the problem. The problem is bringing more animals into an already crowded world.

I am not against breeders. Good reputable breeders, that is, that breed ONLY to better the breed that they love.

BTW, Harley is most likely a purebred JRT and he came from a shelter.

[Riptide]

Aww, congrats Lori! Can't wait to see pictures!

I'm gonna voice my opinion, too, but I'll try not to start anything, lol.

As said before, accidents do indeed happen. True, it may have been a better choice to get the cats spayed earlier on, but the fact is that they werent this time. -shrugs- The cats got out, and the pregancies were by accident. Guys, chances are that most of you have had an experience with a pet getting out of the gate, etc, by pure accident. Take Glacier and her dog, Delta, for example. Delta was missing, it was a huge deal, because she loves Delta. Did PT not support Glacier and Delta through their troubles? It is no different here. Please stop attacking Lori for an accident. Instead, we should be supporting her and offering our advice and knowledge (in a KIND way) so she can successfully raise the wonderful kittens, and hopefully prevent an accident like this from happening again ^^

You have my support all the way ^^