New Puppy and Cat has given Birth to 2 kittens

[caseysmom]

BCmom I don't think that is the issue, those homes could place some kittens doomed for death in the shelters.

[Roxyluvsme13]

BCmom I don't think that is the issue, those homes could place some kittens doomed for death in the shelters.

But if these kittens wouldn't have had homes they would have ended up in shelters, too, most likely, and would, like other kittens, be doomed for death.

[Vela]

Don't get me wrong, I am glad the kittens have homes, I am glad she was responsible about that and is hopefully getting her cats fixed. It is often hard not to post in haste when someone starts yelling in their posts and having an uncaring attitude that this could have and should have been avoided and that's it's just fine to let our pets breed without a though to preventing it. I admit I replied in haste in one of my posts but neither of the others was meant to be anatgonistic, but the replies became so and I should have kept my calm. It get such an overwhelming sadness when I see things like that video and realize that they are all dying, and being dumped in the garbage!, just because people won't fix their pets. It's different if someone says, oh man I meant to get my cat fixed but she went into heat and got pregnant before I could get to it, and actually feels bad about it, but when it seems like the person is just like yeah whatever, who cares, it's frustrating. And it's a very emotion driven topic for all but when the OP gets antagonitstic it's hard for others not to. I know I didn't feel that way until the OP acted like she knew it all and was smarter than everyone and it was just fine and dandy. I am done posting in this thread, I wish good luck to the moms and babies and hope they don't end up with any more litters.

[Riptide]

Aww, congrats Lori! Can't wait to see pictures!

I'm gonna voice my opinion, too, but I'll try not to start anything, lol.

As said before, accidents do indeed happen. True, it may have been a better choice to get the cats spayed earlier on, but the fact is that they werent this time. -shrugs- The cats got out, and the pregancies were by accident. Guys, chances are that most of you have had an experience with a pet getting out of the gate, etc, by pure accident. Take Glacier and her dog, Delta, for example. Delta was missing, it was a huge deal, because she loves Delta. Did PT not support Glacier and Delta through their troubles? It is no different here. Please stop attacking Lori for an accident. Instead, we should be supporting her and offering our advice and knowledge (in a KIND way) so she can successfully raise the wonderful kittens, and hopefully prevent an accident like this from happening again ^^

You have my support all the way ^^

[Roxyluvsme13]

Aww, congrats Lori! Can't wait to see pictures!

I'm gonna voice my opinion, too, but I'll try not to start anything, lol.

As said before, accidents do indeed happen. True, it may have been a better choice to get the cats spayed earlier on, but the fact is that they werent this time. -shrugs- The cats got out, and the pregancies were by accident. Guys, chances are that most of you have had an experience with a pet getting out of the gate, etc, by pure accident. Take Glacier and her dog, Delta, for example. Delta was missing, it was a huge deal, because she loves Delta. Did PT not support Glacier and Delta through their troubles? It is no different here. Please stop attacking Lori for an accident. Instead, we should be supporting her and offering our advice and knowledge (in a KIND way) so she can successfully raise the wonderful kittens, and hopefully prevent an accident like this from happening again ^^

You have my support all the way ^^

I agree with you 110% .

[K9soul]

I'm tired of seeing Glacier/Tamara brought up in these controversial threads as an example when one has nothing to do with the other. It seems to happen constantly and it's always Glacier brought into these things, why? I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think it is rude. She has had nothing to do with this thread and shouldn't be mentioned and made into an analogy.

[Riptide]

I was using her as an example simply because her and Delta's situation relates to this one pretty well. The whole getting out thing, I mean.

[caseysmom]

I agree k9soul and I almost posted the same response.

[My Peanuts]

I'm tired of seeing Glacier/Tamara brought up in these controversial threads as an example when one has nothing to do with the other. It seems to happen constantly and it's always Glacier brought into these things, why? I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think it is rude. She has had nothing to do with this thread and shouldn't be mentioned and made into an analogy.

I agree. Totally different situation.

[My Peanuts]

Aww, congrats Lori! Can't wait to see pictures!

I'm gonna voice my opinion, too, but I'll try not to start anything, lol.

As said before, accidents do indeed happen. True, it may have been a better choice to get the cats spayed earlier on, but the fact is that they werent this time. -shrugs- The cats got out, and the pregancies were by accident. Guys, chances are that most of you have had an experience with a pet getting out of the gate, etc, by pure accident. Take Glacier and her dog, Delta, for example. Delta was missing, it was a huge deal, because she loves Delta. Did PT not support Glacier and Delta through their troubles? It is no different here. Please stop attacking Lori for an accident. Instead, we should be supporting her and offering our advice and knowledge (in a KIND way) so she can successfully raise the wonderful kittens, and hopefully prevent an accident like this from happening again ^^

You have my support all the way ^^

This is well said, but I see this as a pet lover and animal lover board. We say what we say for the love of the animals that don't know any better, but we should. Many of us have our opinions because we have seen and heard stories of the horrific things that happen to animals due to over population.

Yes there are times when an oops litter can happen and can be acceptable in my opinion. For example my dog Jimmy couldn’t get fixed because he had heartworm (he has since been fixed and HW negative) All the other dogs in my house are fixed and no dog has ever jumped our fence. I watched Jimmy to make sure he never got out. After all that if he got out and got a someone pregnant somehow, I’d hope I’d have support here. This didn’t happen, but it could have if I let my guard down even one time. I didn’t.

[Flatcoatluver]

Yes there are times when an oops litter can happen and can be acceptable in my opinion. For example my dog Jimmy couldn’t get fixed because he had heartworm (he has since been fixed and HW negative) All the other dogs in my house are fixed and no dog has ever jumped our fence. I watched Jimmy to make sure he never got out. After all that if he got out and got a someone pregnant somehow, I’d hope I’d have support here. This didn’t happen, but it could have if I let my guard down even one time. I didn’t.

you would get the support because you CAN'T neuter Jimmy. She could have spayed her cats but didn't to it in time

[Riptide]

No, she didnt spay them in time, but you'll have to live with that fact. I still see no reason for being rude to her.

[My Peanuts]

I'd also like to add that when these topics come up I don't hate the person, I hate the situation.

[Lori Jordan]

Don't get me wrong, I am glad the kittens have homes, I am glad she was responsible about that and is hopefully getting her cats fixed. It is often hard not to post in haste when someone starts yelling in their posts and having an uncaring attitude that this could have and should have been avoided and that's it's just fine to let our pets breed without a though to preventing it. I admit I replied in haste in one of my posts but neither of the others was meant to be anatgonistic, but the replies became so and I should have kept my calm. It get such an overwhelming sadness when I see things like that video and realize that they are all dying, and being dumped in the garbage!, just because people won't fix their pets. It's different if someone says, oh man I meant to get my cat fixed but she went into heat and got pregnant before I could get to it, and actually feels bad about it, but when it seems like the person is just like yeah whatever, who cares, it's frustrating. And it's a very emotion driven topic for all but when the OP gets antagonitstic it's hard for others not to. I know I didn't feel that way until the OP acted like she knew it all and was smarter than everyone and it was just fine and dandy. I am done posting in this thread, I wish good luck to the moms and babies and hope they don't end up with any more litters.

Not once did i act like a know it all not once i have kittens bottom line and as too taking homes away from others have you looked at a local paper?and have seen all the ads of "Free Kittens".Does that mean that those kittens dont deserve homes?not at all one thing that needs to be put on the table is these kittens are not to blame on why they came into this world and there is one left the other passed away last night i took him into the vets his foot was swollen and purple from Cally biting the kitten and he passed on the table i do not have a dont care attitude at all.If i didnt care id just leave the kitten to die,also the kitten did not latch on he was having problems so i went into the vets got the suplement to feed it i was the one that got no sleep trying to get this kitten back to have strength to survive but no one sees that yes i know she should have been fixed i realize that but there has been hardly any support now if you were on my end you would feel the same way,and i know you's would.It hurts what hurts the most is being told its all my fault,its my fault she chewed a hole in the screen and got out .What has botherd me the most some people want shelter pets some dont and you and i cannot help that,but it does not mean that the kitten who is surving does not deserve a home and too be loved id have every single animal in a shelter if i could,Some of you forget i fosterd dogs for a couple years until my health got into the way of things,I do care and i do not to be put out as heartless i'm far from that!

[BC_MoM]

BCmom I don't think that is the issue, those homes could place some kittens doomed for death in the shelters.

You're not understanding what I'm saying.

I'm sure Lori will appropriately place the kittens.

Reread that again. I didn't say she's going to give them to the first home that asks for a kitten just like that..