New Puppy and Cat has given Birth to 2 kittens

[Lori Jordan]

There is a nice little video in the Doghouse that might be of interest. But it only helps if people give a crap. ACCIDENTS ARE PREVENTABLE, and now their deaths are NOT. I'm not going to feel badly for thinking it's wrong. In my opinion it is wrong and completely irresponsible not to spay or neuter your pets. There is no good justification, period. And becuse of it, they suffer and die being unloved and alone! Accidnet don't HAVE to happen, if people would do the right thing for their animals. There are ever free or low cost spaying places, so even not having the money is no excuse at all. Sorry just makes me mad to see those who contribute to the problem not even care.

So how were your dogs brought into this world?

[Lori Jordan]

Ok i have had it!!!!Keep your reply's to yourself from here on out,You think your right do ya?You think you know it all?You must!I must be the only person in this world that had a batch of kittens...If your so into "shelters" why are most dogs in here purebred?I wonder what the breeders went through when you went to purchase your dogs also wonder how you treated me they say that this is such a great place to be hmm i wonder cause almost everything i have posted i have had my head ripped off so im done with making threads

[Roxyluvsme13]

Ok i have had it!!!!Keep your reply's to yourself from here on out,You think your right do ya?You think you know it all?You must!I must be the only person in this world that had a batch of kittens...If your so into "shelters" why are most dogs in here purebred?I wonder what the breeders went through when you went to purchase your dogs also wonder how you treated me they say that this is such a great place to be hmm i wonder cause almost everything i have posted i have had my head ripped off so im done with making threads

Don't get mad. We're just trying to help. I got yelled at and got this whole speech on shelter dogs when I decided to get a purebred Pom from a breeder, because Roxy lives on a chain, and because I had just lost Tink. I understand how it feels to be yelled at, but they're just trying to inform. Well, at least *I* am.

[K9soul]

I just wanted to point out that many dogs from shelters are purebred and when people talk about shelters and rescues that includes breed-specific rescues too. My golden retriever is a rescue. Just for clarification. Blowing up at people really doesn't do any good, it just gets yourself so upset that you can't see any sense in what some people may be saying, you shut yourself off to learning or considering different viewpoints. With that said, I wish you the best.

edit: I was posting the same time as Kay was.

[.sarah]

I have four dogs, three are purebred. Can you tell which one is a rescue? Bet you can't. I volunteer frequently and work for my humane society. We have 13 dogs right now, 7 are purebred. There are also lots of purebred dogs at our shelter.

Please quit playing the guilt card. Some of us have made mistakes, but we have learned and we are trying to educate people so they won't do the same. This thread has stayed informative if you exclude your own defensive, finger-pointing posts. We are not bashing you, we are trying to help you. Please calm down and really read these posts. What's done is done, your cats will be/have given birth and we can't change that. What we are trying to change is you ever having any more "oops" litters. If you want to go about breeding responsibly, then I and most other Pet Talkers will most certainly support you, but if you are not willing to spend thousands of dollars to show you have a top-notch cat/dog, then spay your animals and let them lead healthy lives.

[Kfamr]

Ok i have had it!!!!Keep your reply's to yourself from here on out,You think your right do ya?You think you know it all?You must!I must be the only person in this world that had a batch of kittens...If your so into "shelters" why are most dogs in here purebred?I wonder what the breeders went through when you went to purchase your dogs also wonder how you treated me they say that this is such a great place to be hmm i wonder cause almost everything i have posted i have had my head ripped off so im done with making threads

NEWS FLASH! You can get pure bred dogs at shelters and breed specific rescues. Not EVERY purebred comes from a breeder. Also, there is a different between you and a responsible breeder, for instance, Luvofgold00! She is a very, very responsible breeder.



Quite possibly a forum isn't the place for you... you seem to have issues with accepting opinions and differing morals.

[Lori Jordan]

NEWS FLASH! You can get pure bred dogs at shelters and breed specific rescues. Not EVERY purebred comes from a breeder. Also, there is a different between you and a responsible breeder, for instance, Luvofgold00! She is a very, very responsible breeder.



Quite possibly a forum isn't the place for you... you seem to have issues with accepting opinions and differing morals.

I dont breed cats!News Flash!

[Alysser]

I dont breed cats!News Flash!

She wasn't talking about cats. She was talking about dogs, as before you said "I have been breeding cats and dogs since before you were born."

[Kfamr]

I dont breed cats!News Flash!

Stop contradicting yourself lady.

[Lori Jordan]

Stop contradicting yourself lady.

?And what is your reasoning for being rude

[luvofallhorses]

[Alysser]

?And what is your reasoning for being rude

Because you are being rude. We never ever ever stated that those kittens don't deserve a home. I am in complete agreement with Kay, Tamara and Delta should not be brought into this thread. There is no reason at all for it. i don't see how a dog running away and a cat having kittens is the same .

[cmayer31]

Every now and then a thread comes along that touches a lot of people just the right way and this is one of those.

Lori, I'm glad that you are excited that the cats have had kittens. The picture is very cute, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that one of them has passed over the bridge. It's exciting when new life comes into the world and I understand your excitment that there are new babies on the way. It is good to hear that you plan to have the cats spayed and that is the best thing to do in my opinion.

I think the big picture is that it happened, and nothing is going to change that fact now. However, where most of the people on this board are coming from is that it "could" have been avoided... true. The bigger picture is that now the cats will be spayed and it will not happen again, and that is all that can be expected at this point in time, right now. There is a huge population of pets both mixed and purebred and that population needs help in the form of adoptions and rescues; not to be amplified by accidental litters. The only way to prevent accidental litters is through spaying and neutering, and that is all that I personally ask is to help the population by spaying and neutering before the next oops. I don't think anyone meant to be offensive, I just think that the nature of this thread leads to a bit more defensive/emotional threads.

I do expect to see more pictures of course, of the kitties and the new canine addition.

[dab_20]

So how were your dogs brought into this world?

That isn't the point she was making.

We are not bashing you. If you read your threads, and then other posts, you are the one who is yelling at us. I think you need to go back and reread the posts.

[Vela]

So how were your dogs brought into this world?

Well if you must know, one was a rescue and one was from a reputable breeder who was trying to better the breed. There is a big difference between that and what happened here. I am as entitled to my opinons as you are to yours. Reputable breeders only do so to better the breed and don't go around just letting their animals breed because they don't bother to get them fixed. If you don't like getting others opinions then don't make posts, if you are going to make them be prepared to get opinons that go along with yours and those who go against yours, since we all have differing ones. There is nothing wrong with responsible breeding, but that is not what you did and you know it. There are kids on here who are not in charge of whether their pets get spayed or not and that's totally diffierent, it's not up to them. But you are an adult who can make that choice and if you aren't going to get them spayed, then it is up to you to be repsonsible enough not tolet them produce any more animals that we are already killing in the thousands each day. Like it or not that's the truth of it.