Need some help...

[Jessika]

Well I definitely do not see any Rot; the face is much too narrow and the mouth too long! The funny thing about guessing breeds is that a lot of people think "oh a black dog with copper points - it MUST be part Rott!" when that is entirely not the case lol

I would say he does not have any Rott in him at all, I do see some Dobe though!

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

I didn't realize she was so small...in that case, I'd say she's probably a Doberman mixed with some sort of smaller breed but I'm awful at breed guesses. Chances are likely, she's just a mutt mixed with a mutt and you'll never know for certain but I do see Dobe for some reason...not sure what it is.

[raycie]

Went to the vet yesterday.. he didn't help.. There should be some sort of thread on bad vets with seriously no beside manner... I do know now that she is 37lbs and about 9 months...

Will be taking her to another place on friday.. will ask them what they think.. Will post some standing pics later...

Thanks all..