Need some help...

[Giselle]

How old is she and how big? Tons of dogs, from the Miniature Pinscher up to Black and Tan Coonhounds have that same coloring, but everyone automatically assumes Rottie or Doberman.

Agreed 100%! I replied to your other thread in the Behavior section, but I have to agree with Karen. 30 pounds is way too small for a modern day Dobe/Rottie mix. If you have a full body shot, that would really help, as well, but for the time being, she looks more Manchester Terrier than anything else.

[IRescue452]

She's tiny! Look at her compared to the size of that chair. Maybe she's a small dobie mix, or maybe a terrier mix of sorts.

[Jessika]

Well I definitely do not see any Rot; the face is much too narrow and the mouth too long! The funny thing about guessing breeds is that a lot of people think "oh a black dog with copper points - it MUST be part Rott!" when that is entirely not the case lol

I would say he does not have any Rott in him at all, I do see some Dobe though!

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

I didn't realize she was so small...in that case, I'd say she's probably a Doberman mixed with some sort of smaller breed but I'm awful at breed guesses. Chances are likely, she's just a mutt mixed with a mutt and you'll never know for certain but I do see Dobe for some reason...not sure what it is.

[raycie]

Went to the vet yesterday.. he didn't help.. There should be some sort of thread on bad vets with seriously no beside manner... I do know now that she is 37lbs and about 9 months...

Will be taking her to another place on friday.. will ask them what they think.. Will post some standing pics later...

Thanks all..