I Need Your Help!!!

[Lori Jordan]

That is just the thing,We all have different things on training our dogs!I believe that treats should be given when the dog has done something right,But not when they have done something wrong like Messing on the bed!Just the other day me and my trainer had difference of opinion,My Newf takes off if you go to go out the door she will rush you and get out and be gone for half an hour my trainer says to me give her a treat when she does come home,and there is no way i would do that.

She did something wrong im not going to praise her for it.I do not yell or hit my dogs but when she came in i put her in her crate and that is punishment in itself because she hates her crate.
Given she is a year old they tend to still be like a child,they want what they want and that is it.
As for my Border Collie i have never had any problems of her acting out other than the time she wet the bed she was 8 weeks old,it could have been numerous reasons on why she did what she did.but it only happend once,Some people say rubbing there nose in there mess,Some people might use that ,but i would never do that i think if i was a dog in that position i would not like that very much and it really puts more work on you ,Youd have to turn around and bathe the dog right after.
I'm not saying i know it all on dogs but i have had many in my time,and i know what works for me just like the rest.And some things im still learning!

All of us are different in every way and when there is post like this you are going to hear different things,

[K9soul]

That is just the thing,We all have different things on training our dogs!I believe that treats should be given when the dog has done something right,But not when they have done something wrong like Messing on the bed!

I'm not going to go into my thoughts on all of this as I've already posted my advice on using positive methods, but I want to clarify that I never said treat the dog after she pees on the bed, I said treat her for coming to you when called off the bed. Try to catch her as she jumps on the bed, call her off, and then treat her for getting off and coming when called. It's called behavior shaping. You'd think a dog might decide "hey, I can get a treat if I jump on the bed and make her call me" but that isn't how it works. It actually conditions the dog to break the habit of jumping up there if done consistently. There are tons of books on positive training methods and using only positive methods even to curb problem behaviors.

Ignoring is one of the best things you can do with a negative behavior. If a dog does a negative behavior for attention and you scold him/her, you are still giving attention even if it's negative. "Ignore the bad, reward the good" method has worked wonders in training my two and in changing undesirable behavior .

edited to add: Also I should clarify too that when I say "treat" I mean reward. Both my dogs are food motivated and Tommy is very toy motivated, so I keep a couple toys that Tommy gets ONLY as reward toys, it's the only time he gets to play with them is when he is being rewarded for something, so to him they are extra special. The treats I use for reward are also only used as reward and never regularly given treats. It has to be special. A reward can be anything from a morsel of cheese to scratching in a favorite spot to receiving a favorite toy, but in all cases they are proven to work very well in training and modifying behavior. Most working dogs such as drug sniffing dogs, search and rescue, etc, have some special reward they are working for.

[Alysser]

Good advice K9soul! Good luck to you and Zoe!

Also, I believe in postive training. If the dog gets off the bed and comes to you then giving he/she a treat is a good thing. They got a positive thing out of coming off the bed.

[zoomer]

I'm not going to go into my thoughts on all of this as I've already posted my advice on using positive methods, but I want to clarify that I never said treat the dog after she pees on the bed, I said treat her for coming to you when called off the bed. Try to catch her as she jumps on the bed, call her off, and then treat her for getting off and coming when called. It's called behavior shaping. You'd think a dog might decide "hey, I can get a treat if I jump on the bed and make her call me" but that isn't how it works. It actually conditions the dog to break the habit of jumping up there if done consistently. There are tons of books on positive training methods and using only positive methods even to curb problem behaviors.

Ignoring is one of the best things you can do with a negative behavior. If a dog does a negative behavior for attention and you scold him/her, you are still giving attention even if it's negative. "Ignore the bad, reward the good" method has worked wonders in training my two and in changing undesirable behavior .

edited to add: Also I should clarify too that when I say "treat" I mean reward. Both my dogs are food motivated and Tommy is very toy motivated, so I keep a couple toys that Tommy gets ONLY as reward toys, it's the only time he gets to play with them is when he is being rewarded for something, so to him they are extra special. The treats I use for reward are also only used as reward and never regularly given treats. It has to be special. A reward can be anything from a morsel of cheese to scratching in a favorite spot to receiving a favorite toy, but in all cases they are proven to work very well in training and modifying behavior. Most working dogs such as drug sniffing dogs, search and rescue, etc, have some special reward they are working for.

Nicely explained and I agree