Should there be an age limit

[Karen]

So you are pretty much saying it is ok for kids to read this stuff, Youngest kid that is in here now is 13 and im sorry i just do not think it is right for them to see this kinda stuff.Kids are influenced very easy!!! i would not have conversations of suicide or alcholism with my 13 yeard old daughter,and that is how old my youngest is!If she was thinking on the lines,your damn right i would get involved but i would not bring it up like an everyday conversation!!!

Do you not want to discuss alcohol with your 13-year-old now, and warn her about the problems that people have with it? I can pretty much promise you she hears stuff about it at school, and any gathering place of people her age, and the information present on Pet Talk is a far more balanced discussion of the subject - and far more factual - than anything she's gonna hear from other 13-year-olds. I'd be willing to bet she also has a freind or classmate dealing with alcoholism in a family member, and though the 13-year-old probably isn't going to tell anyone about - and might not for years, any 13-year-old having some knowlege of it could not hurt in my humble opinion.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

Personally, I would never let anyone under the age of 14 walk my dogs eventhough they do behave on walks (adults would be my preference, although I would never hire a dog walker anyway). I think people should be atleast 14 years and up before they start walking other peoples' dogs for them, a dog is a dog and you never know what could happen. A responsible teen (though...I must admit, they seem to be very few and far between these days...and before anyone says aything, I am a teen). I think somebody over the age of 14 who is experienced with dogs would be able to take control over a situation, where as somebody around 10 years old could not do much IMO.

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Eventhough this is off topic, Lori Jordan, I don't see why people 13 and up shouldn't be allowed to read these sort of threads....topics such as the ones you mentioned are constantly being talked about in school by almost everyone so it's pretty much impossible to keep your child away from those sort of subjects. Some kids choose to get involved and others, like myself, have no desire to get invloved. It all depends on the individual, and I believe that by 13 years of age and older, you should be able to make wise, mature decisions. As long as we're in school, there is no way to get away from certain topics coming up...hopefully that made sense. It's not as if PT is encouraging us to go out and drink or anything like that so I don't believe we shouldn't be allowed to read certain threads just because of the topic.

[Miss Z]

I think Karen made the minimal age for PT 13 for a reason, so that only mature young people would join. I know lots of 13 year olds who like animals but would feel embarrassed and 'un-cool' to come on here . Only teenagers who do not mind about that and really care about animals will join PT, and I think that shows maturity. Me, I've known about alcoholism, drugs etc for years. And anyway, don't most schools have lessons to teach teenagers about this stuff? I'm 14 and this year at school we have started sex education. It's not a lesson where we are told lots of bad things, but somewhere we are told informally about adult life. It's not offensive, repulsive or anything else, and if teenagers aren't going to be told now, then when? Before sex ed, the complementary studies was all about the effects of drugs and alcohol. Teenagers are young adults, and actually teenagers who are informed about these kind of issues are less likely to drink/take drugs in the future. That's from a teenager's point of view anyway

[Lori Jordan]

I will NEVER post in here again! And as for my 13 year old daughter,no she has no clue on the subject so does that mean i should teach her?i went through it with my own mother i would not Bring something like this on with my own,Kids will do what they want to but protecting them against it i dont think im doing a thing wrong here so you all can gang up on someone else from now on

[Lori Jordan]

At 13 who is mature? i know my daughter is far from mature!It ws just the way people explained on how the suicide was commitd that i have a problem with!

[Lady's Human]

so you all can gang up on someone else from now on

I didn't realise we were "Ganging up" on anyone. Merely dissenting opinions. Ganging up would imply it was organized, which it most certainly wasn't.

[Catty1]

Lori Jordan - WHAT did you go through with your own mother? Whatever it was, you certainly want to protect your daughter from it. Swinging the pendulum all the other way doesn't always do the job, since it is done out of fear(most times, not necessarily in your case).

I'm not saying this is you - but people who grow up in alcoholic or dysfunctional homes share some common characteristics. And these get passed on to the kids, because that's all they know.

Here they are, just FYI:

Many of us found that we had several characteristics in common as a result of being brought up in an alcoholic or other dysfunctional households.
We had come to feel isolated, and uneasy with other people, especially authority figures. To protect ourselves, we became people pleasers, even though we lost our own identities in the process. All the same we would mistake any personal criticism as a threat.
We either became alcoholics ourselves, married them, or both. Failing that, we found other compulsive personalities, such as a workaholic, to fulfill our sick need for abandonment.
We lived live from the standpoint of victims. Having an over developed sense of responsibility, we preferred to be concerned with others rather than ourselves. We got guilt feelings when we trusted ourselves, giving in to others. We became reactors rather than actors, letting others take the initiative.
We were dependent personalities, terrified of abandonment, willing to do almost anything to hold on to a relationship in order not to be abandoned emotionally. We keep choosing insecure relationships because they matched our childhood relationship with alcoholic or dysfunctional parents.
These symptoms of the family disease of alcoholism or other dysfunction made us 'co-victims', those who take on the characteristics of the disease without necessarily ever taking a drink. We learned to keep our feelings down as children and keep them buried as adults. As a result of this conditioning, we often confused love with pity, tending to love those we could rescue.
Even more self-defeating, we became addicted to excitement in all our affairs, preferring constant upset to workable solutions.
This is a description, not an indictment
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Do you ever hear from your daughter what kids talk about at school? Or from the teachers? Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it isn't there. I'll bet, like Karen, that your daughter has heard more than you think. It's all a matter of where you want her to learn about life's realities.

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Catty1