Quote Originally Posted by Vela
You guys are expecting way too much out of a young green baby who has probably hardly ever been handled in her lifetime. You have to start small and work your way up. A lead shank with a chain will NOT solve this. Working with her and training her will not make her worse, it's the only thing that will help. She doesn't know what is going on, she has to learn what things are and that they won't hurt her. Horses don't come knowing everything, just like puppies, they have to learn. Up until now she is learning worse an worse behavior by getting away with acting how she wants to be left alone.
Exactly what I was getting at Vela, thanks

Maybe Jack and Dreamer just got started off on the wrong foot (or hoof, in their case ). Perhaps when Dreamer calms down Jack will accept her and then Dreamer will build some confidence on him. I wish you all the best with Dreamer and hope everything works out. Glad to be of help