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    I would take her to the vet... Better safe then sorry.
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    That too but is she still going outside how many times has she wet the bed?

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    Yeah, she goes potty outside all the time.

    She's peed on my bed twice this week.

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    i think it is just a "you giving me crap" ill get you back thing"

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    So... How do I stop it?

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    well there are lots of ways for the floor when they have picked a spot ,for your bed im not sure,keep your door shut but there is nothing you could put on your bed....mine only did it twice i scolded them and took them outside and that fixed my problem maybe try doing the same with her.

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    Like Lori Jordan I used the severe scolding, and immediately took the dog outside. The peeing on the bed episodes in my house happened with two different dogs. One was an excellent dog who was house broken in days as a puppy, and the other was well....Hannah....who was very difficult to house train (it literally took 2 years).

    In both cases a severe scolding was all it took. It did not become a regular occurance, athough if I remember correctly, Hannah did it on two occasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lori Jordan
    i think it is just a "you giving me crap" ill get you back thing"
    I strongly disagree. I do not believe dogs think this way. That is putting human thoughts into a dog's head. It's more likely an insecurity behavior for some reason, but it's hard to really pinpoint it without being there and watching her. I do NOT believe dogs take "revenge" this way. If she is getting scolded a lot, she could be frightened and insecure. I would not use a gruff scolding personally. I would use positive training. I'd keep a treat pouch and call and treat her lots, and if you catch her on the bed, rather than scold or punish, call her and treat/praise her each time. A vet check isn't a bad idea either.

    I also feel like if she's being given a lot of opportunity to go where she isn't supposed to and no one is around to redirect her, it's going to be pretty hard to teach her that she is not allowed in the room in this situation.

    You say she sits down and urinates. Does that mean you have witnessed it each time? Perhaps she is getting caught on the bed, sees you, is afraid of being punished/scolded, and submissive urinates? My boy Tommy used to have a real issue with submissive urination. If this is the case scolding and yelling could make it even worse.

    Like I said though, it is hard to understand without not really being there and witnessing her behaviors. Whatever you do though, please do not interpret it as a defiant/intentional behavior.
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    well said, K9Soul.. I would take her to the vet to see if there's anything wrong with her.
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    You telling me your dog has never been distructive?

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    I also agree with K9soul. Dog's just don't do things that way. We put human emotions such as anger and resentment on them that they just don't possess. You need to think like a dog with siutations like this. YOu can either move the toys and keep your bedroom door shut, or like someone else mentioned, for now keep a piece of noisy plastic or a shower curtain on the bed so that if she jumps up she won't like the sound, and if she does jump up and pee, then your bed is protected. You would be better off trying to keep the door closed though. I agree also that if you are seeing her do this there is a good possibility she is scared when she sees you and she is on the bed and pees out of fear at the time.

    Being destructive doesn't mean they are trying to "get you back". They aren't like people. Most likely a dog who has done something destructive either likes playing with or chewing on whatever they destroyed, or was very bored. My guess is the dog is confused and peed on the bed out of submissive/fear urination. Dog's don't have "revenge" thoughts in that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K9soul
    I strongly disagree. I do not believe dogs think this way. That is putting human thoughts into a dog's head. It's more likely an insecurity behavior for some reason, but it's hard to really pinpoint it without being there and watching her. I do NOT believe dogs take "revenge" this way.
    I agree. Dogs simply do not think the way we do, and they don't think about 'getting back' at you.

    I would recommend seeing a vet, also. Good luck!

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    Well, I took her in to see her vet yesterday.

    She can't find anything physically wrong with her.

    She thinks that it's a jealousy issue also. I'm moving upstairs into my daughters bedroom, and then she'll be moving downstairs. So we'll see if that ends her bad behavior.

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    Hopefully you read this...but my dog did the exact same thing. He was trained to go out and asked when he had to go, but then all of a sudden he started going to the bathroom inside. As well as zoe, he peed on my brother's bed and my parent's bed, and all over the house, including the stairs which was a hassel to clean. I'm pretty sure he was doing this for attention and that may be very well what your zoe is doing too, so I encourage you to check that out. I solved this problem by pretty much ignoring him. I keep him in the kitchen so what I did was put him down there and left him alone there for a while well we were all up stairs. I think he learned that when he did that he wasn't getting attention. *Remember that dogs also do things to get negative attention so sometimes the yelling doesn't work, we tried yelling "no" and so on, and my dog just continued going to the bathroom in the house. You can also try making zoe sit in a corner and stay there for a couple minutes. Hope this helps

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    That is just the thing,We all have different things on training our dogs!I believe that treats should be given when the dog has done something right,But not when they have done something wrong like Messing on the bed!Just the other day me and my trainer had difference of opinion,My Newf takes off if you go to go out the door she will rush you and get out and be gone for half an hour my trainer says to me give her a treat when she does come home,and there is no way i would do that.

    She did something wrong im not going to praise her for it.I do not yell or hit my dogs but when she came in i put her in her crate and that is punishment in itself because she hates her crate.
    Given she is a year old they tend to still be like a child,they want what they want and that is it.
    As for my Border Collie i have never had any problems of her acting out other than the time she wet the bed she was 8 weeks old,it could have been numerous reasons on why she did what she did.but it only happend once,Some people say rubbing there nose in there mess,Some people might use that ,but i would never do that i think if i was a dog in that position i would not like that very much and it really puts more work on you ,Youd have to turn around and bathe the dog right after.
    I'm not saying i know it all on dogs but i have had many in my time,and i know what works for me just like the rest.And some things im still learning!

    All of us are different in every way and when there is post like this you are going to hear different things,

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