Religious question for Popcornbird

[Pam]

I started a thread on this when I heard that.

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=101453

Got very few replies. Figured my thread was politically incorrect. It is abhorrent to me and I really wish someone could explain why converting to a new religion should be punishable by death. Human rights anyone? Freedom of speech/thought/conscience anyone? Scary!

[caseysmom]

Pam,

I saw this thread and replied then I saw yours...it had nothing to do with your politically correctness....

[KYS]

I just watched channel 2 news and it looks like the man will hopefully
be released based on Afghanistan law that states their is
freedom of religion.
The news stated that Islamic Law states Conversion is punishable by death,
thus the conflict.

[Sophist]

Yes, they've been saying that they were trying to cave into pressure by releasing him as 'insane' and therefore incompentent to stand trial, but the clerics are still openly advocating a lynch-mob waiting to "tear him to pieces" as soon as he is on the streets. Right now, being turned loose in Afghanistan might be the worst possible thing for him, and the best thing for the people wanting to try him. All their 'friends' in the U.S., Europe, and other places will have been pacified that they upheld religious freedom, and the clerics will be satisfied that he is dead and has been made an example.

[popcornbird]

Gosh, I want to CRY!!! No Debbie, you haven't done anything wrong , but I typed a HUGE, long reply, and when I clicked on post, I got 'logged out' and it never went through. I clicked on back, and my message was gone. UGH!!!! I sooooooo want to cry right now.

'sigh'

My fingers are tired. Patience, patience. I will try to type it up again, but not now. Maybe later tonight. Maybe tomorrow. I need to go eat dinner, and I'm pretty upset about my reply not going through right now.
Wah.

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

Gosh, I want to CRY!!! No Debbie, you haven't done anything wrong , but I typed a HUGE, long reply, and when I clicked on post, I got 'logged out' and it never went through. I clicked on back, and my message was gone. UGH!!!! I sooooooo want to cry right now.

Whew! When I first read the "I want to CRY!!!" I thought I really screwed up in how i asked this - whew! Sometimes I come out and ask questions that might not come out right so I'm always worried how they'll be taken by the questionee - glad that wasn't the case here.

Pam, sorry, I didn't see your post. I usually don't read a lot of the Dog House posts so that's probably why I missed it.

No hurry, Pops. I'm just sorry your post was gone because I know you put a lot of time and thought into it, which is why I respect your opinion on all this.

[smokey the elder]

That's a bummer that your post got logged out. You are the best spokesperson for Islam that I've ever encountered. If people knew you they would realize what your faith is REALLY all about. Too bad they don't let women be imams.

[Pam]

Pam,

I saw this thread and replied then I saw yours...it had nothing to do with your politically correctness....

No problem Caseysmom. My question is whether or not this is Islam doctrine. If it is a few nut cases that's one thing, because every religion has a few of those. If this is part of their doctrine that is something else.

[smokey the elder]

PCB, I respect your philosophy about defined roles for men and women, but I must respectfully disagree. (Maybe this is why I'm Pagan and not Christian or Muslim.) "Imam" was intended as a symbol for a highly respected individual of the community. On the radio show 51 Percent they had a bunch of women Islamic scholars on that had some very interesting things about theology from a women's point of view.

[KYS]

CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html

[Pam]

CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html

Well if this is correct, and I believe it probably is, we have our answer in these quotes....

"Rejecting Islam is insulting God. We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die," said cleric Abdul Raoulf, who is considered a moderate and was jailed three times for opposing the Taliban before the hard-line regime was ousted in 2001.

And this cleric is considered a moderate? He won't allow God to be humilated? Can God not take care of himself? It seems to me God has been doing that since way before this man, or anyone for that matter, ever was born. This is a message of hate devised in the heart of man. Nothing could be further from the heart of God than the shedding of innocent blood.

"We are a small country and we welcome the help the outside world is giving us. But please don't interfere in this issue," Nasri said. "We are Muslims and these are our beliefs. This is much more important to us than all the aid the world has given us."

Afghanistan's constitution is based on Sharia law, which is interpreted by many Muslims to require that any Muslim who rejects Islam be sentenced to death.

[Lady's Human]

While parts of the Afghan constitution are based in Sharia,it also acknowledges the United Nations Declaration on Human Rights. Part of the UN declaration is freedom of religion, so in following sharia law as strictly as they are, they are violation thier constitution. (Unfortunately, most of their judges are muslim Imams)

[lizbud]

Chris, thanks for the CNN link.I think this quote from the article speaks
volumes about this country & their so-called democracy.


"But Said Mirhossain Nasri, the top cleric at Hossainia Mosque, one of the largest Shiite places of worship in Kabul, said Rahman must not be allowed to leave the country.

"If he is allowed to live in the West, then others will claim to be Christian so they can, too," he said. "We must set an example. ... He must be hanged."