Religious question for Popcornbird

**Sophist** · 03-24-2006, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by caseysmom

I am no expert on any of this but from my view it is some countries using the religion to control the populas, they can dictate all sorts of things and keep the women from voting them out by the use of religion.

Some countries? Just out of curiousity, which countries with predominately Islamic law do you consider to be the ones that do NOT subjugate women?

(Of course,'subjugation' is based on western ideals of gender roles, but I'm still interested in hearing...)

**elizabethann** · 03-24-2006, 02:56 PM

Here's an update on that man:

An Afghan man threatened with execution because he converted from Islam to Christianity is expected "to be released in the coming days," an official says.

**Pam** · 03-24-2006, 06:22 PM

I started a thread on this when I heard that.

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=101453

Got very few replies. Figured my thread was politically incorrect.

It is abhorrent to me and I really wish someone could explain why converting to a new religion should be punishable by death. Human rights anyone? Freedom of speech/thought/conscience anyone? Scary!

**caseysmom** · 03-24-2006, 06:30 PM

Pam,

I saw this thread and replied then I saw yours...it had nothing to do with your politically correctness....

**KYS** · 03-24-2006, 06:41 PM

I just watched channel 2 news and it looks like the man will hopefully
be released based on Afghanistan law that states their is
freedom of religion.
The news stated that Islamic Law states Conversion is punishable by death,
thus the conflict.

**Sophist** · 03-24-2006, 06:46 PM

Yes, they've been saying that they were trying to cave into pressure by releasing him as 'insane' and therefore incompentent to stand trial, but the clerics are still openly advocating a lynch-mob waiting to "tear him to pieces" as soon as he is on the streets. Right now, being turned loose in Afghanistan might be the worst possible thing for him, and the best thing for the people wanting to try him. All their 'friends' in the U.S., Europe, and other places will have been pacified that they upheld religious freedom, and the clerics will be satisfied that he is dead and has been made an example.

**popcornbird** · 03-24-2006, 10:02 PM

Gosh, I want to CRY!!! No Debbie, you haven't done anything wrong

, but I typed a HUGE, long reply, and when I clicked on post, I got 'logged out' and it never went through. I clicked on back, and my message was gone. UGH!!!! I sooooooo want to cry right now.

'sigh'

My fingers are tired. Patience, patience. I will try to type it up again, but not now. Maybe later tonight. Maybe tomorrow. I need to go eat dinner, and I'm pretty upset about my reply not going through right now.
Wah.

**Pam** · 03-26-2006, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by caseysmom

Pam,

I saw this thread and replied then I saw yours...it had nothing to do with your politically correctness....

No problem Caseysmom.

My question is whether or not this is Islam doctrine. If it is a few nut cases that's one thing, because every religion has a few of those.

If this is part of their doctrine that is something else.

**smokey the elder** · 03-26-2006, 09:08 AM

PCB, I respect your philosophy about defined roles for men and women, but I must respectfully disagree. (Maybe this is why I'm Pagan and not Christian or Muslim.) "Imam" was intended as a symbol for a highly respected individual of the community. On the radio show 51 Percent they had a bunch of women Islamic scholars on that had some very interesting things about theology from a women's point of view.