New Puppy

**lbaker** · 03-14-2006, 07:44 PM

**Kfamr** · 03-14-2006, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by lbaker

I wondered about this, and all posted within 1/2 hr of each other

I thought it best not to say anything that sounded, um.. harsh

Yeah... Weird.

I do hope all animals brought up lately by OP are safe.. (the hamster, goat, and two dogs.)

**lbaker** · 03-14-2006, 07:52 PM

Thanks Kay, I thought I may have been alone here..

**lute** · 03-14-2006, 08:01 PM

do ya'll not think that maybe bad things can happen in a short amount of time. i know a lot of liars, cheaters, irresponsible people come here, but i've got to know dog_pug123 and she's just going through a lot right now.

Kfmar, i know that if Simba and Nala went missing or for some odd reason you had to return Kiara to the shelter you would get a ton of support from all PTers.(i'm not singling you out, but i know you'd get a lot of support from people)

When Jake was kept by the breeder some people decided not to listen to all the info that was givin to them. i know all that was seen was "my side of the story" but when the breeder returned Kfmar's e-mail he lied about me "demanding papers" and me telling him i had a fenced in yard. the breeder later called my dad and told him he had to lie to keep his good reputation.

Glacier's delta has been missing for quite some time(come home Delta!)we have givin Glacier support out the wazoo! Please, everyone be nice to dog_pug123!

**Kfamr** · 03-14-2006, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by lute

do ya'll not think that maybe bad things can happen in a short amount of time. i know a lot of liars, cheaters, irresponsible people come here, but i've got to know dog_pug123 and she's just going through a lot right now.

Kfmar, i know that if Simba and Nala went missing or for some odd reason you had to return Kiara to the shelter you would get a ton of support from all PTers.(i'm not singling you out, but i know you'd get a lot of support from people)

When Jake was kept by the breeder some people decided not to listen to all the info that was givin to them. i know all that was seen was "my side of the story" but when the breeder returned Kfmar's e-mail he lied about me "demanding papers" and me telling him i had a fenced in yard. the breeder later called my dad and told him he had to lie to keep his good reputation.

Glacier's delta has been missing for quite some time(come home Delta!)we have givin Glacier support out the wazoo! Please, everyone be nice to dog_pug123!

If you're mentioning me and my dogs specifically, YES, you are singling me out.

I never called her a liar, it just seems weird everything she's posted lately. I don't think Glacier should be brought into this either.

I gave OP support and I said I do hope her dog comes back.

**lute** · 03-14-2006, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Kfamr

If you're mentioning me and my dogs specifically, YES, you are singling me out.

I never called her a liar, it just seems weird everything she's posted lately. I don't think Glacier should be brought into this either.

I gave OP support and I said I do hope her dog comes back.

i didn't say you called her a liar. i was talking to everyone.

i wasn't dissing you in any way. i just used you and your lovely dogs as an example. i said i wasn;t sngling you out because i wanted you to know i wasn't talking to just you.

not trying to start anything.

**CagneyDog** · 03-14-2006, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by lute

i said i wasn;t sngling you out because i wanted you to know i wasn't talking to just you.

Oh?

Kfmar, i know that if Simba and Nala went missing or for some odd reason you had to return Kiara to the shelter you would get a ton of support from all PTers

I guess you just worded your words incredibly wrong then.

I hope Alli comes home.

**Glacier** · 03-14-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Kfamr

I never called her a liar, it just seems weird everything she's posted lately. I don't think Glacier should be brought into this either.

Thanks, Kay.

Lute my situation is completely different from this one. I certainly wasn't sitting on the computer an hour after Delta ran away. I turned it on long enough to print 200 missing posters and that was it. I never even thought about posting anywhere until he was gone for almost three days. He disappeared on February 20, I posted in the wee hours of February 23. I was doing everything I could to find my dog. When I admitted he might not be coming back, I posted here. I've posted maybe three other threads since then, mostly about Raven's medical problems. I don't feel like posting or replying much at all.

Delta has been gone a long time, 22 days to be exact. The odds of him coming home now are extremely slim. I will forever have to live with the fact that because I didn't triple check that stupid gate, an innocent creature who I adore, paid with his life. I will forever be haunted by the fact that the last hours, maybe days, maybe even weeks of his life were spent alone, afraid, hungry, cold and possibly in pain. In all likelihood he died a horrific death in the jaws of predator. I haven't slept without medication since the day Delta disappeared. The image of him running into a wolf makes sleep impossible. I will never forgive myself for not doing more to socialize him. If I had, maybe he would have been brave enough to find his way home or let someone else catch and bring him home. The only comfort I can find is that I did everything I possibly could to bring him home. I continue to look, search and advertise for him, despite the long odds of any success. I don't even get to mourn him properly because there is no closure in missing. Delta was only 4. I will spend the next 10 years, potentially his life span, looking at every black and white husky cross I see, just in case.

Dont' compare my Delta to this.

I do hope Ali is safe at home by now. I wouldn't wish this hell on my worst enemy.

**luvofallhorses** · 03-14-2006, 09:00 PM

I don't think it's right to bring Glacier into this either...

**dab_20** · 03-14-2006, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Glacier

Thanks, Kay.

Lute my situation is completely different from this one. I certainly wasn't sitting on the computer an hour after Delta ran away. I turned it on long enough to print 200 missing posters and that was it. I never even thought about posting anywhere until he was gone for almost three days. He disappeared on February 20, I posted in the wee hours of February 23. I was doing everything I could to find my dog. When I admitted he might not be coming back, I posted here. I've posted maybe three other threads since then, mostly about Raven's medical problems. I don't feel like posting or replying much at all.

Delta has been gone a long time, 22 days to be exact. The odds of him coming home now are extremely slim. I will forever have to live with the fact that because I didn't triple check that stupid gate, an innocent creature who I adore, paid with his life. I will forever be haunted by the fact that the last hours, maybe days, maybe even weeks of his life were spent alone, afraid, hungry, cold and possibly in pain. In all likelihood he died a horrific death in the jaws of predator. I haven't slept without medication since the day Delta disappeared. The image of him running into a wolf makes sleep impossible. I will never forgive myself for not doing more to socialize him. If I had, maybe he would have been brave enough to find his way home or let someone else catch and bring him home. The only comfort I can find is that I did everything I possibly could to bring him home. I continue to look, search and advertise for him, despite the long odds of any success. I don't even get to mourn him properly because there is no closure in missing. Delta was only 4. I will spend the next 10 years, potentially his life span, looking at every black and white husky cross I see, just in case.

Dont' compare my Delta to this.

I do hope Ali is safe at home by now. I wouldn't wish this hell on my worst enemy.

I am sooo sorry, Glacier.

I can't even imagine the pain you're going through right now. I still pray for Delta every night. It is NOT your fault he got out. We're all human and we make mistakes. But there's still hope.

Sorry, I didn't mean to change the subject.

**Vela** · 03-14-2006, 09:02 PM

I agree, it was not appropriate to compare the two, at all. I wasn't going to say anything but Tamara's post had me in tears and I'm sure it hurt her greatly to be dragged into this when it doesn't even compare and have to actually drag it all up when it's obviously so hurtful.

Still praying for you guys and Delta every day Tamara, I know how much it hurts your heart and you feel so guilty. Telling you not to is pointless because I know I would feel that way too.

I hope Alli comes home safely before something happens to her.

**Giselle** · 03-14-2006, 09:03 PM

Hmm, congrats on the puppy.

Just curious, where exactly do you live in SF that allows you to own a GOAT? I'm serious, PM me because that's really interesting! A friend of ours works in Bay Area realty, and I would give my right arm to live in SF with a yard big enough to legally able to take care of a goat!

At any rate, since you're so close, I think it's time for another Nor Cal PT meet

So many new additions!

**.sarah** · 03-14-2006, 09:04 PM

I do hope Alli comes home, but I sure as h*ll wouldn't be on the computer right now if this were my dog.

Glacier, that was probably the most heart felt post I've read in the entire time I've been on this forum. Please don't blame yourself - you did everything in your power to keep him safe, and now you are doing everything to bring him back. I'm sure Delta is grateful for the time he had with you. And I agree that your situation is entirely different, and it was uncalled for to bring you into this.

**Alysser** · 03-14-2006, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Glacier

Thanks, Kay.

Lute my situation is completely different from this one. I certainly wasn't sitting on the computer an hour after Delta ran away. I turned it on long enough to print 200 missing posters and that was it. I never even thought about posting anywhere until he was gone for almost three days. He disappeared on February 20, I posted in the wee hours of February 23. I was doing everything I could to find my dog. When I admitted he might not be coming back, I posted here. I've posted maybe three other threads since then, mostly about Raven's medical problems. I don't feel like posting or replying much at all.

Delta has been gone a long time, 22 days to be exact. The odds of him coming home now are extremely slim. I will forever have to live with the fact that because I didn't triple check that stupid gate, an innocent creature who I adore, paid with his life. I will forever be haunted by the fact that the last hours, maybe days, maybe even weeks of his life were spent alone, afraid, hungry, cold and possibly in pain. In all likelihood he died a horrific death in the jaws of predator. I haven't slept without medication since the day Delta disappeared. The image of him running into a wolf makes sleep impossible. I will never forgive myself for not doing more to socialize him. If I had, maybe he would have been brave enough to find his way home or let someone else catch and bring him home. The only comfort I can find is that I did everything I possibly could to bring him home. I continue to look, search and advertise for him, despite the long odds of any success. I don't even get to mourn him properly because there is no closure in missing. Delta was only 4. I will spend the next 10 years, potentially his life span, looking at every black and white husky cross I see, just in case.

Dont' compare my Delta to this.

I do hope Ali is safe at home by now. I wouldn't wish this hell on my worst enemy.

Agreed! But Glacier we all understand this and I just want you to know that we all know you ARE doing everything for Delta.

**K9soul** · 03-14-2006, 09:04 PM

I was crying my eyes out after that post Tamara. I only hope some realize how rude and hurtful it is to drag someone else's name in to compare them in these situations, especially when they are going through such horrible emotional pain. And I'd honestly be highly insulted that someone would even hypothetically use me as an example of taking my dog back to the shelter as was done with Kay and Kiara. Don't pull other people in to compare with and make your point, it's rude and hurtful.

I've tried to stay out of this, but it broke my heart to see Tamara thrown in as a comparison in this. She's been used in other hurtful comparisons too and it really upsets me, no one should be used in that way.