In depair but I know I can confide in PT

[cyber-sibes]

((((hugs)))) So sorry for you, it just plain stinks to see our kids make terrible choices. About all you can do is pray for them. Often family has the least impact when you try to help. What I do is pray God will bring the right people and circumstances into their life asap (even if that means hitting a bottom) so that they will be willing to change and accept responsibility for their choices. *sigh* no easy answers...
I work with a gal like that - she's got 3 kids by 3 different guys, too.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

(as I'm sure you're angry).

More stunned than anything at the moment to be honest.

Thank you for the replies so far - I will certainly mention adoption to her but I can't honestly see her going full term then handing baby over (although I do agree it would be the best thing for the poor little mite).

The only good thing to come out of this will be that Katie is determined not to end up like her sister, as much as she loves her - a small crumb of comfort but one me and her Dad are clinging to right now

[Karen]

But maybe, if she is put intouch with someone who desperately wants a baby, she can be persuaded adoption is the way, and tell anyone who asks that she is being a surrogate mother - carrying a child for someone who cannot - and that might help her mentally.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

But maybe, if she is put intouch with someone who desperately wants a baby, she can be persuaded adoption is the way, and tell anyone who asks that she is being a surrogate mother - carrying a child for someone who cannot - and that might help her mentally.

That's a thought! Thanks Karen

[prechrswife]

As someone who is in the process of adopting, this hits very close to home for me. There are so many couples out there who want to be parents, who are ready to be parents, yet they are physically unable to do so. If you could find someone in this position for her to talk with, maybe that would make the decision easier.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

This may sound harsh but the tricky bit will be getting her to stop thinking of herself and how much she'll suffer and to get her to consider what would be best for the baby and the two she's already got. She's a great one for sitting around bemoaning how hard her life is and how tough things are - getting her to see that its no-one's fault but her own won't be simple.

Thanks for letting me offload to you all - not a pleasant topic I know

[JenBKR]

Well, that won't be easy. Is she still with the father of the current baby?