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    Quote Originally Posted by JenBKR
    Please don't just go by what others say....
    Well that's what my dad says... and I believe him.

    Bush is apparently is against gays. That is very unfair. My dad is and I take that personally. I bet he does, too. I think we shoulden't have a president that is dicrimanent (sp?) against certain people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dab_20
    Well that's what my dad says... and I believe him.

    Bush is apparently is against gays. That is very unfair. My dad is and I take that personally. I bet he does, too. I think we shoulden't have a president that is dicrimanent (sp?) against certain people.
    Not saying I am for Bush - but he is not against gays. He believes that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. That is what is in the bible, and Bush follows that. I just believe that everyone should find out for themselves the facts, not necessarily believe what they hear from others (especially the media!!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenBKR
    (especially the media!!).
    Like Fox network!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    Like Fox network!
    Oh yeah, the rest too.

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    All kidding aside....how do you anticipate getting the facts? If not from the media? Or your parents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    All kidding aside....how do you anticipate getting the facts? If not from the media? Or your parents?
    Honestly, I don't know. Hopefully someone else will have a better answer. Maybe that's why I'm not very political - I do listen to what my parents have to say, and what others have to say, and the news, but how much of it do I know to be true? I have no idea...

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    If you are a young person growing up asking questions gives you answers. You don't have to believe everything everyone says. Do they still have current events in school? We use to have a weekly reader in grade school (back in the 1950's) then in high school current events. We were to read the newspapers, & watch news reports. You can form an opinion about something but you can also change that opinion with the more information you aquire on a subject. As far as gays & les's you have two choices. The Bible & good morals. But in the Bible it says to love & care for everyone. So if you don't agree with the life style of gays or les's & there choices in life & morally you think it is not right but still these people are humans & the Bible says to love & care for everyone can you ignore what they have been dealt in life. There bodies & minds are telling them something different then what we consider to be normal. Am I for their life style, no, but there is this nagging question is it fair for me to be their judge? Am I not to care for & love them like everyone else? A nagging question for all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenBKR
    Honestly, I don't know. Hopefully someone else will have a better answer. Maybe that's why I'm not very political - I do listen to what my parents have to say, and what others have to say, and the news, but how much of it do I know to be true? I have no idea...

    You can get the truth from the media, you just have to know what their spin is. Like with the teasing earlier about Fox - Fox News is very conserative. When you are watching Fox News, you need to understand what they are saying will be very leaned to the right. Likewise, there are news channels which are very liberal and their stories will be "spun" towards the left.

    Check the sources when something sounds suspect to you. Let's say you read a 'fact' and the writer said he got the information from CNN. Check his source: did CNN say it in the way he used it or did he put his own 'spin' on the subject?

    It gets easier once you begin looking at the facts and sources. With so many opinions coming at you from every direction, it can be overwhelming at first. Once you start looking closer at different forms of media, you'll be able to tell which direction they lean and it will be become much more obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JenBKR
    Not saying I am for Bush - but he is not against gays. He believes that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. That is what is in the bible, and Bush follows that. I just believe that everyone should find out for themselves the facts, not necessarily believe what they hear from others (especially the media!!).
    Oh. The media should just give us the truth. Barely anyone cares if it's exciting... just give us the dang truth! Stupid media people...

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    The media tends to sensationalize things or focus only on the bad or most dramatic, in other words what gives the best ratings. They have some basis but a lot of times makes it worse than what it is. That said I think the best way to make an informed opinion is to listen to both sides with an open mind. Hard to do but if you go into a conversation willing to actually listen, while you may not agree with someone you may at least understand their point of view. Who knows they may bring up some points you hadn't thought of.

    That's not to say I support Bush or the war in Iraq, far from it in fact. I do however greatly respect the troops for doing a job that I doubt I could do. I'm in San Diego and many of the troops stationed in Iraq are based here. I don't think anyone could hear the stories from the families of these troups and not respect the sacrifices their making whether you support the war or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnance
    The media tends to sensationalize things or focus only on the bad or most dramatic, in other words what gives the best ratings. They have some basis but a lot of times makes it worse than what it is. That said I think the best way to make an informed opinion is to listen to both sides with an open mind. Hard to do but if you go into a conversation willing to actually listen, while you may not agree with someone you may at least understand their point of view. Who knows they may bring up some points you hadn't thought of.

    That's not to say I support Bush or the war in Iraq, far from it in fact. I do however greatly respect the troops for doing a job that I doubt I could do. I'm in San Diego and many of the troops stationed in Iraq are based here. I don't think anyone could hear the stories from the families of these troups and not respect the sacrifices their making whether you support the war or not.
    I agree with you. My brother's base was in San Diego... I forget what the base was called.

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