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    LH....at least you are consistent...you never let TRUTH get in the way of a spin.....

    October 25, 2004 18:17 IST



    US President George W Bush has exploited the suffering of September 9/11 and turned back decades of efforts to make the world a safer place, former President Jimmy Carter has said.
    Attacking Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair over Iraq in an interview to The Guardian, London, published Monday, Carter said the war was "completely unjust adventure based on misleading statements."

    80-year-old Carter, who was President from 1977-1981, but did not win re-election amid the US hostage crisis in Iran, also criticised Bush for "lack of effort" on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and accused him of abandoning nuclear non-proliferation initiatives championed by five presidents.

    "The US suffered, in 9/11, a terrible and shocking attack... and George Bush has been adroit at exploiting that attack, and he has elevated himself, in the consciousness of many Americans, to a heroic commander-in-chief, fighting a global threat against America," Carter said.

    "He's repeatedly played that card, and to some degree quite successfully. I think that success has dissipated. I don't know if it's dissipating fast enough to affect the election. We'll soon know."

    Denying any link between his handling of the Iranian crisis and the present threat, Carter said "The entire Islamic world condemned Iran. Nowadays, because of the unwarranted invasion of Iraq by Bush and Blair, which was a completely unjust adventure based on misleading statements, and the lack of any effort to resolve the Palestinian issue, there is massive Islamic condemnation of the United States."

    American media organisations, he said, "have been cowed, because they didn't want to be unpatriotic. There has been a lack of inquisitive journalism. In fact, it's hard to think of a major medium in the US that has been objective and fair and balanced, and critical when criticism was deserved."

    On nuclear proliferation, the issue that the Democratic contender John Kerry has identified as the single most serious threat to national security, Carter attacked Bush for abandoning "all of those long, tedious negotiations" carried out by President Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan and himself.

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    ES, there USED to be a tradition in the United States, started by George Washington, the the former executive would not comment about his successor's policies. President Carter's successor (President Reagan) was several years ago.

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    You really need to reread American history. Cleveland....served four years.......was defeated for relection...ran again and defeated his successor. Theodore Roosevelt. Handpicked his successor - William Howard Taft....didn't like the job he did....ran against him as the Bull Party. Lost...but so did Taft.

    Should I go on? I have NEVER heard of such a tradition and....if Washington did...he was the only one to observe it! It sure wasn't Jefferson.

    I think you can safely say that Lincoln, McKinley, Garfield, and Kennedy, Franklin Roosevelt, Harding... all upheld the tradition.

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    ES, there's a difference between running for re-election (which a two term president can no longer do) and sniping from the sidelines for no apparent purpose other than keeping your name in the media.

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    Cleveland wasn't a two term president when he ran again. Roosevelt was not technically either. He succeeded to his first term when McKinley was shot. They both ran against the guy who succeeded them...four years later.

    Maybe Gore and/or Kerry and Clinton are
    sniping from the sidelines for no apparent purpose other than keeping your name in the media.
    for a real apparent reason. They disagree with the Bush administration.... That is still permissable in the country....unless of course Bush/Cheney get their way!

    So would you like to explain this statement of yours again????
    Carter established the center, and also did other humanitarian work, however he did NOT go to the media and rip apart the succeeding administration in the manner that former Pres. Clinton, former VP Gore, and Senator Kerry have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    ES, there's a difference between running for re-election (which a two term president can no longer do) and sniping from the sidelines for no apparent purpose other than keeping your name in the media.
    But lots of presidents critcized other presidents' policies, especially Jefferson, Roosevelt, and Lincoln - and not only when they were running for reelection. Jefferson was one of our most outspoken presidents. He said what the thought and had no problems saying where he thought Adams was wrong in his policies.
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    Jefferson succeeded Adams,and therefore could not criticize Adams as his successor. Lincoln died in office (He wasn't alive to criticize his successors), as did FDR. TR criticized his successor as he ran against him for election

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    There you go again LH! There were TWO presidents named Adams. You are correct that John Adams preceded Jefferson but John Quincy Adams came after Jefferson. ANd she is right. Jefferson was very critical of his sucessors...although often still able to remain friendly with them.

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