Muhammad cartoon row intensifies

[Killearn Kitties]

PCB I realise that your post comes from the heart, but I genuinely fail to see what it has to do with freedom of speech. That is what this thread is about.

No sensible person believes that all Muslims are bad because of the media, as you suggest. I can't speak for your media, but ours certainly does not suggest it. Nor do people believe that all Muslims are bad, period. However, the failure of some Muslim groups to condem terrorists and extremists, does harm the entire community.

[Randi]

I was going to post a really good link yesterday, but the site has been hacked. I'm too tired to comment on any of this now, but here's a link in english: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4674628.stm

Goodnight!

[lizbud]

PCB I realise that your post comes from the heart, but I genuinely fail to see what it has to do with freedom of speech. That is what this thread is about.

No sensible person believes that all Muslims are bad because of the media, as you suggest. I can't speak for your media, but ours certainly does not suggest it. Nor do people believe that all Muslims are bad, period. However, the failure of some Muslim groups to condem terrorists and extremists, does harm the entire community.

I agree with these comments completely, especially the last sentence.

Where is the outrage from the Muslim community when their prophet's
commandments are ignored by slashing the throats of helpless captives.

[RICHARD]

this is kinda off topic but follow me for a bit.


There is a new backlash against the illegal immigrants that are flooding the state of Cah lee fuh nee ah.

The state is spending more and more money for education, medical help for these people.

We are also being pushed to give them driver's licenses, state aid - welfare and food stamps.

Anytime someone speaks out against the I.I.'s the people start to cry RACISM, HATE and what ever else you can think of.

I am a first generation Cal lee fuh nee an, and American, with roots from Mexico.


Do I find the II's offensive? You betcha! For all the reasons above.

I have found out that many of the newer immigrants come here and use the services, take advantage of all the things that the people who came here legally fought and worked for.

I walk into a super market and see a woman open a package, feed herself, her kids and ditch the bag of food before they get to the cashier.

I stopped feeling sorry for them A LONG TIME AGO.

Go to a store and watch people buying milk and juice, steak and eggs with my money....I do not begrudge them a good life, but I would like to seem them put more effort into getting it-not waiting for a hand out.


The thing I find most offensive are the 'rallys' where these poor illiterate people hold up signs (mispelled) asking to treated with dignity and the idea that they should be given 'rights'!

They are just pawns for the industrys that use them as cheap labor, the politicians who use them a cheap photo ops and as a bargaining strategy.

I choose to be realistic in what I believe and what I'll fight for.

What I find truly offensive is having an Iman preach hate and murder over a frigging cartoon.....

The backlash isn't people burning Danish flags in the streets of the middle east...It's the rest of the world at a small group of people who do not know the meaning of free speech..

Yep, they can burn all the flags they want. Try to burn the Quran on the same block and you'll get shot..

It's freedom of speech when you tackle the Great Satan that lives in the West.


But like the old saying goes, when trying to burn the Quran...


DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!

This is not a rant against all Muslims, It's a knock against all the morons who use Islam and their positions to promote hate all across the planet.


And what make me think this is even more silly is the fact that most people are kept illiterate by their countries and their leaders.....

And If the Muhammed should be depicted in any graphic form -how do they even know that it's a cartoon against their religion?

It's the poor schmucks being used by the people "in the know" that I feel sorry for...

[RICHARD]

I just heard some of the media outlets in the Middle East are asking for cartoon about the Holocaust.


Here is my entry.

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Because the Holocaust never happened, according to a small faction of Muslims, there should be no submissions...

I am calling for a boycott. Of any, and all, bedsheets made of mulsin cotton!

[Randi]

It seems the link I wanted to post last week is back up:

http://blog.newspaperindex.com/2005/...posten-racism/

Anyone wanting to discuss this further, there's a good opportunity in the link at the bottom of the page.

[JenBKR]

I wasn't going to respond, but I'll just say that I can understand Popcornbird's take on the situation. If it was Jesus that was the target of the cartoon, I would be pretty upset. Not to say that I condone at all the threats and violence, but I can't judge an entire group of people based on a few extremists. There are extremists in Christianity that I'm not proud of, people that take it way too far, and I hope not to be judged by them as well.

[popcornbird]

Having freedom of speech is one thing. Using it in the wrong way is not acceptable when it comes to the media spreading it, especially when it is intended to hurt a major part of the world. That's called the misuse of freedoms. Too much of anything is good for nothing. If its an individual using his freedom of speech to say such things, fine. A newspaper showing it to the whole world and in such an insultive way is NOT acceptable.

Richard, I wasn't going to answer you, but I can't stand it any longer. Words cannot express how much you anger me sometimes. Do NOT dare bring the Quran in this. Comparing the Quran to flags? Shame on you. There's a major difference between flags and a book people believe to be from God. For Muslims, without the Quran, there is no life. Its more important than oxygen to us. You compare the wrong things. If you want to burn the flag of a Muslim country, big deal. That would hardly offend anyone. Even if it would, certainly not to such an extent. It makes me furious that you would dare mention the Quran in this way. I can't believe I'm responding this nicely when I'm so angry inside. Ugh.

I'm still observing and pondering over the hypocracy here. Its actually quite amusing. Sheesh.