Quote Originally Posted by slleipnir
Thanks for the info.

When you say "don't let him off leash at the dog park" does this mean don't let me off leash AT ALL? I...let him off leash in a baseball diamond (fenced in) with no other dogs ... I find he NEEDS to run off leash because he needs the exersice. So, assuming there are no dogs in with him, would it ruin everything to let him run??

That being said...I did some focus work with him. He was looking around at everything, and I tried saying "Watch me" and holding a treat in front of him. I said "Yeeesss!" when he gave eye contact. He got a little confused at first, wondering what I wanted him to do, and he started to bark. I had to point to my eyes for him to get it.

I had him on leash as we were leaving, and this big saint bernard came. I tried to do the watch me thing again, but he wouldn't even turn his head to me until the dog past. I let them sniff, should I not let him go to the dog at all?? I'll keep working. Will he really learn to focus on me? I know when I work Josie, if she knows treats are involved, and lets say we're heeling, she won't take her eyes off me. Even walking, she looks right at my eyes. A trainer told me once that that is really good...to bad she is only like that if I had food lol
I edited some of your post out for responding to it. First, if you are in a controlled area and no other dogs (your problem) are around, then let Zeke run if you can. I agree that sometimes dogs need to run for exercise, especially if they are high energy dogs. Just make sure the dog is safe at all times. This will NOT ruin any of your training.

Second, you are rushing things by putting a verbal command of 'watch me' on the first day you try this exercise. The idea is to make the dog think and realize he has to "watch you" instead of you telling him to "watch you". That is why I never put a verbal on a command until the dog understands the concept of what he is doing. He needs to do the thinking, not the listening! He will be confused at first and looking at everything except you. That is why when he even glances in your direction he immediately gets the reward. Looking at everything else but you is a normal response at first until he realizes when he looks at you he gets rewarded. Be patient. This can take time for the dog to figure out, depending on how often you work him in the exercises. I would recommend doing it at least twice a day for 10 minutes and even more if you have the time. Don't go any longer than 10 minutes. I've seen some dogs NOT look at their owners eyes for minutes with the owner getting frustrated. It's hard just to stand there and wait for the dog to look but at this point in the training that is exactly what you have to do. If the dog doesn't look at you at all, your reward is not a big enough value to the dog. Try using something more enticing.

Last, think about this scenario... the dog acts up when he sees another dog and then he gets to sniff or play with the other dog. His reward for acting up is he gets what he wants... to play! If he gets rewarded everytime he acts up with the reward of playing or getting to sniff another dog, it just makes sense that he thinks that is acceptable behavior. So the answer to your question is NO... they should not get any interaction when inappropriate behavior is involved. Will he ever be able to play with other friendly dogs again. Of course! But for now his goal is to focus on you. A gentle tug of the lead and a really enticing reward (bigger than him looking at the other dog) has to be readily available. If he doesn't listen and continues to misbehave with wild behavior, it would result in a down and me standing on the lead so he couldn't pull. We would stay in that position until he does focus on me. Only when he focuses on me would he get any kind of reward.

You stated that Josie listens when food is involved but not anytime other than that. In positive dog training you need to fade the lure or treat once the dog has a firm grasp on the concept. In training, instead of every time she does something she gets a treat, lower it to every other time and when she has that down then ever third time until you get reliable commands even when no food is present. A dog who is food motivated only was never weaned from food rewards properly.

He will learn to focus on you! It takes time and practice, practice and more practice!