We're Buying from a Breeder

[lv4dogs]

Responsible breeders, and yes they are out there, don't cause the problem and should not be held accountable for the rest. And being repsonsible doesn't just mean saying you have done the testing, they have paperwork to back it up.

BTW, your no breeding of any kind thing would eventually cause dogs to disappear since they do grow old and die and I'm really not up on the whole cloning thing being a good idea...If responsible breeders stopped breeding until the unhomed pets all found homes, then by the time that happened there would be no dogs for them to breed resposibly with because their dogs would all be dead from old age and the only dogs left would be ill bred or mixed breed dogs...I think it would be a shame to lose all of the wonderful breeds out there.

Ditto!
Vela, you are awesome!



Anyways, Tasha I am glad you decided on a shelter dog.
Would it be possible for you to tell your shelter what you are looking for in a dog (size, good w/ kids, grooming needs etc...) and they can keep an eye out for you & let you know when they have a possible match for you? I know the shelters arund me do that!

I wish you the best of luck!

[Roxyluvsme13]

Cool! Glad you're going to save some lucky pups life! Honestly I would get something like a toy breed. They're fragile and stuff, but Im sure you already knew this! Anyways I hope you find the perfect dog for your family

[Pam]

I am sorry you reacted so hotly Johanna. It was not my intention to rile you up. You must realize, though, that you and I were "breeders" and we chose to be. We had/have that right. I am not disputing the fact that you are giving your son a loving home and caring for him. What I am disputing is your narrow view that any breeding of dogs (and I assume cats) is wrong, thus my comment regarding human breeding. If we were as righteous as we should be I guess we should all be adopting and all running out to get our tubes tied. I imagine somewhere out there is a forum as narrow minded as you seem to be, only it is on the subject where people are criticized for having their own genetic children. Geesh!

[Cataholic]

Wow, Pam, thanks for making it so personal. That is just the hypocrisy I am speaking of. I am entitled to my opinion without being called narrow minded. To hear another woman call me a breeder is really, really sad. You have personally attacked me, and my opinions. I am not riled up, I am emphatically speaking my opinion, without labelling you, or anyone else, for theirs. And, just for the record, I wasn't imagining that you were somehow faulting my child rearing skills. I have a wee bit more self esteem than that. You are a total stranger to me. Your opinion cannot have that sort of impact on my life, nor should mine on anyone else's.

If you calmly go back and read my posts, you will see that I did not attack people for breeding their dogs (and cats, you are right, I feel the same way there). I just don't think it is right. I guess I should look at it this way, it always gives me a chance to push rescue.

[Pam]

I am entitled to my opinion without being called narrow minded.

To say that all breeding must stop is pretty darned narrow minded if you ask me or the umpti-thousands of good breeders all over the world who are trying to better their respective breeds. You have your opinion. I absolutely disagree with it. I have mine. End of discussion.

[Cataholic]

To say that all breeding must stop is pretty darned narrow minded if you ask me or the umpti-thousands of good breeders all over the world who are trying to better their respective breeds. You have your opinion. I absolutely disagree with it. I have mine. End of discussion.

Rightly so, if you hadn't personally attacked me. Rightly so.

[BC_MoM]

You know, I used to be 110% against any breeding, reputable or not.

But that's just not reality.

All NON reputable breeding NEEDS to be stopped as soon as we all can do so. THEY are the reasons there are not enough homes, as are people who refuse/can't afford to have their animals neutered/spayed.

As long as Crazy-Cat-Lover buys from a REPUTABLE breeder and can return the pup if it turns out being too much, then I have changed my mind and am saying go ahead. We can't force her to adopt an older dog who is homeless. She wants a cute little puppy that she will have to wait and see what it will be like as an adult. That is the mistake many pet owners make.

[Crazy-Cat-Lover]

She wants a cute little puppy that she will have to wait and see what it will be like as an adult. That is the mistake many pet owners make.

I want a cute little puppy eh? That is NOT my intention AT ALL! Yes, puppies are cute, but would I get any dog just because its cute? I would rather have an ugly, well behaved dog than a cute bad behaved dog. My choice to get a puppy was NOT because they are cute. Puppies are hard work and I know everything there is to know about training dogs. A puppy is great because you can raise it with small children, big children, cats, snakes, hamsters, MEN, other adults etc. You can take the puppy for walks on busy streets so they can get used to vehicles, take them to to vet plenty of times, ALL so they grow up to accept these things as adults.

Whos to say an adult dog wont fear/dislike men with glasses or beards? Alot of these things CANNOT be judged by a shelter. They test the dogs with cats, kids and other dogs. They dont take the dog out and see how he will react to big bikers or how they will react to crying babies?! Having a puppy was my choice because I will know what goes into him, I will know what the puppy has been taught, no how he will react to everyday sounds.

I am far too mature to think that you only have pets because they're cute. Two out of three of my cats are rescues. I wouldnt change a thing. I love Sebastian, I raised him since he was 7 weeks old. He is just like me, in a cats body. Animals DO act like their owners, your attitude reflects how your animals will grow up. I am considering adopting a dog from a shelter, but not a dog that is a senior with 2 years left to live. Who knows if the dog I adopt doesnt have tons of issues that the shelter couldnt see? These are my reasons for wanting to raise a puppy, I wish dogs didnt have the puppy stages, I wish they were all born knowing where to go potty and had the intelligence to be born with basic training.

To everyone else, thank you for your opinions/thoughts. But I think this thread should be closed. My thread turned into a big argument and I think that when I find my new dog, I should open up a brand new thread. That way we can start from the beginning and forget about all of this mess!