We're Buying from a Breeder

**Pembroke_Corgi** · 01-24-2006, 06:17 PM

This is taken from that page. Looks like you can, as long as they are properly vaccinated. (The US is not considered rabies free, so these guidelines apply):

Importation of Pet Dogs
Section 2 - Pet dogs three (3) months of age or over
from countries where rabies is present
(or not recognized officially rabies-free by Canada)
The pet import requirements outlined in this page are current as of 2006-1- 24 .

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2.1 Dogs may enter Canada if accompanied by a valid rabies vaccination certificate issued, in either English or French, by a licensed veterinarian(2), which clearly identifies the dogs and shows that they are currently vaccinated against rabies. This certificate should identify the animal, as in breed, colour, weight, etc., plus indicate the name of the licensed rabies vaccine used (trade name), serial number and duration of validity (up to 3 years). Please note that if a validity date does not appear on the certificate, then it will be considered a one year vaccine.
We do not impose a waiting period between the time the animal is vaccinated for rabies and the time the animal is imported into Canada.

2.2 If the provisions of 2.1 are not met, an inspector will order the owner to have the animals vaccinated for rabies within a period of time specified in the order and to provide the vaccination certificate to an inspector, all at the owner's expense.
Note: Rabies vaccination or certification is not required if the dogs are less than three (3) months of age.

(1) An official government veterinarian is a veterinarian who works for the government veterinary service in the country of origin.
(2) A licensed veterinarian is a veterinarian who is licensed to practice veterinary medicine in the country of origin.

**Crazy-Cat-Lover** · 01-24-2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Kfamr

My living at home with my mother and father has nothing to do with anything. I pay them rent out of every paycheck, I have things I am supposed to do around the house, I cook, I clean, etc. The rest of my money goes towards my dogs. I don't depend on them, infact if I left they'd probably be in a huge hole as my salary is a large part of our bill paying money. They don't make my decisions and they've expected me to make my own decisions for years. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at mentioning all of that, however.

No one here is trying to be negative like you implied in your posts. I do believe every post so far has been out of concern, not only for you and your daughter - but the animals who are defenseless. I just don't think you're comprehending some of the intentions of these posts. No one wants you or another dog be put in the hole you were before. No one wants you to get your hopes up and then be denied for the same reasons as the shelter. Which generally responsible, reputable breeders are highly into rescue and shelter work - more than likely they will think the same way as your local shelter does.

Calling this a negative place, stating you'd be better off asking strangers off the street... That is certainly going to upset some of us who have put our hearts and beliefs into our posts, and do so everytime.

Again, this is all just my opinion again. I don't know if you're going to understand it or not, but please don't get upset or angry, like I said previously, that is not my intent.

I understand it much better now that you have explained it. What I should have said was "I would be better off asking breeders and rescues questions rather than asking here". Simply because I would understand it better because I would be talking face to face, not with text over the internet. I really dont look over my posts before I hit submit. I will keep that in mind from now on and will try to be clearer and less defensive next time.

Wow! I am very proud that you are such a mature teenager. I wish all teens were like you. What I was trying to say was that I no longer live with my parents and have changed dramatically since I moved. I am mature, stable and happy now. I never had responsibilites, now I have lots of them. I never got to make decisions, now I can do what. I can pay to have my dog put into obedience training and agility, I can pay to have my dog vaccinated, neutered, dewormed etc. These will all be my responsibilities. I never knew you paid for your dogs, I thought your parents did. Now that I know you pay for your dogs yourself, I will think of you totally differently. You know what its like to have responsibilities and bills. You know what its like to fork out a good portion your money on your animals - that shows that you arent like most teenagers. When I lived at home, the money I made was spent on ME. Even when I had my daughter (I was 18), I was the WORST mother to her. I didnt buy her anything.

I have learned to value life, spend money where its needed and make my own decisions in which I feel are best for me.

**slleipnir** · 01-24-2006, 06:24 PM

If you're worried about your daughter, then I suggest an older dog that has proven well with kids. ANY dog can become aggressive if not brought up right or other reaons...I have a lab, who is very dog aggressive, and will bark at people. Maybe I did something wrong training her, or maybe it's health related. Just don't assume that because it's a lab, you will have no problems. As well, puppies WILL bite. It will not know that it cannot bite your daughter, and I can almost say for sure that a young puppy will bite. Of course, it is only playing, but it might be enough to hurt your daughter. I'm sure breeders sell older dogs?? Does it need to be a pup?

Also, because you live in an apartment, you realize all the exersize it will need? The more exersize it gets, it is likely to behave better (besides it's good for them)

Please don't think I'm saying you're doing anything wrong, or not to do something. I'm simply making suggestions trying to help. Use it, or don't.

Goodluck

**Kfamr** · 01-24-2006, 06:26 PM

Since you mentioned wondering if US shelters/rescues would adopt out of country - I was searching for you.

Look at this sweetheart.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=5664790
He sounds perfect from the things you've mentioned. I'm going to do some more research and see if they adopt out of country.

**Crazy-Cat-Lover** · 01-24-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by slleipnir

If you're worried about your daughter, then I suggest an older dog that has proven well with kids. ANY dog can become aggressive if not brought up right or other reaons...I have a lab, who is very dog aggressive, and will bark at people. Maybe I did something wrong training her, or maybe it's health related. Just don't assume that because it's a lab, you will have no problems. As well, puppies WILL bite. It will not know that it cannot bite your daughter, and I can almost say for sure that a young puppy will bite. Of course, it is only playing, but it might be enough to hurt your daughter. I'm sure breeders sell older dogs?? Does it need to be a pup?

Also, because you live in an apartment, you realize all the exersize it will need? The more exersize it gets, it is likely to behave better (besides it's good for them)

Please don't think I'm saying you're doing anything wrong, or not to do something. I'm simply making suggestions trying to help. Use it, or don't.

Goodluck

I would actually prefer an older puppy or retired adult. Yes, I know the dog will need lots of exercise. I will keep looking at shelters, maybe I can convince my DH to adopt one from a shelter. He is just so stuck on having a show bred lab, if you want to know why, PM me. It is a long story... I make the decisions, but my decisions have to be approved.

**slleipnir** · 01-24-2006, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Crazy-Cat-Lover

I would actually prefer an older puppy or retired adult. Yes, I know the dog will need lots of exercise. I will keep looking at shelters, maybe I can convince my DH to adopt one from a shelter. He is just so stuck on having a show bred lab, if you want to know why, PM me. It is a long story... I make the decisions, but my decisions have to be approved.

Sounds good to me. Maybe you can find an older show bred lab that would be perfect for you and your family

**Crazy-Cat-Lover** · 01-24-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kfamr

Since you mentioned wondering if US shelters/rescues would adopt out of country - I was searching for you.

Look at this sweetheart.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=5664790
He sounds perfect from the things you've mentioned. I'm going to do some more research and see if they adopt out of country.

Thank you so much. He sure is a cute guy! We live in Surrey and it would take 45 minutes to drive to Bellingham, WA. Do you know anything about shipping and how that works? I have only been in the US once and it was Miami.

**Kfamr** · 01-24-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Crazy-Cat-Lover

Thank you so much. He sure is a cute guy! We live in Surrey and it would take 45 minutes to drive to Bellingham, WA. Do you know anything about shipping and how that works? I have only been in the US once and it was Miami.

I've e-mailed them about adopting to Canada. I'll let you know when I get a reply.

Here is a litter of 4 lab pups - I'm not sure how far you're willing to go if they require you to pick them up, but according to MapQuest they are 6 or so hours away.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=5681676

**dream_dog1234** · 01-24-2006, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Crazy-Cat-Lover

We have made our final decision...

Ugh, I know, I should be adopting from a shelter. We have been searching the shelters for a Labrador Retriever for quite sometime with no luck. It seems that almost all the dogs are lab crosses. Our landlords love big dogs, and have agreed to let us have a Lab. We are going to get a chocolate, show bred lab. Not to put in shows - just the stockier type. I know that they are more calm than the field bred labs.

Now my question is, how in the heck do I go about finding a reputable breeder? I have no clue what to look for/ask? I will be getting a registered/registerable lab puppy - does this always mean it came from a reputable breeder? It would be registered with the CKC (Canadian Kennel Club, not the Continental Kennel Club). I know there are people on here with labs, not neccesarily registered ones, but they are still labs. When does a good breeder let their pups leave? 12 weeks?

Why dont I consider a mix? I feel, that I cannot control a dominant breed and shelters dont really know what the dog is crossed with, they make an assumption. Most breeds are recommended for people with older children - not my case. Dont get me wrong - I adore all dogs. Golden Retrievers also fit my lifestyle, but DH doesnt like longhaired dogs (dont ask why, he doesnt have an answer). One part of me feels like a pile of crap not saving a dog from death, but the other part so badly wants to buy from a reputable breeder.

Now, there arent many Lab breeders in BC, but I have found all their websites. If you would like to take a look I can post them.

I understand your reasons of wanting to buy from a breeder... like everyone else should . Well anyway, here are some avalible breeders, the websites:

Labrador Breeder
A list of canada breeders

Hope I could help with that! I have never had a dog before so I can't help with much of the other stuff

**Alysser** · 01-24-2006, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by dream_dog1234

I understand your reasons of wanting to buy from a breeder... like everyone else should . Well anyway, here are some avalible breeders, the websites:

Labrador Breeder
A list of canada breeders

Hope I could help with that! I have never had a dog before so I can't help with much of the other stuff

Sorry to question you, but if you never had a dog how do you know the reasons for wanting a dog from a breeder? People have opinions and some would adopt first.

**Crazy-Cat-Lover** · 01-24-2006, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Maltese_Love

Sorry to question you, but if you never had a dog how do you know the reasons for wanting a dog from a breeder? People have opinions and some would adopt first.

I have had a dog - this will be my first since I moved out.

**BC_MoM** · 01-24-2006, 07:29 PM

Hey Tasha, 45 minutes isn't that far at all.. especially if you really want a dog!

We drove 3 hours to get Mickey! And an hour to get Molly.

**Corinna** · 01-24-2006, 07:31 PM

Spokane would be more like 8 hrs for her to drive. try pet finders groups and try 2nd chance pets in Idaho? washington they are who we got Dugan from Angie Is a great lady. we did every thing via phone or internet just went to make sure he was the one and he was so we drove home with him.