We're Buying from a Breeder

[Kfamr]

Once again our words have been construed and completly taken out of context. Whatever.


Good luck lady.

[Crazy-Cat-Lover]

Once again our words have been construed and completly taken out of context by this woman. Whatever.


Good luck lady.

I am sorry, but dont you live at home with your mom and dad? I live with my common law husband, yes, husband and I am not much older than you. I am independent, I dont depend on my parents for a house, I dont have parents making the decisions. I make the decisions around here, my DH just has to agree with them. It is not my fault that he wants whats best for his daughter. She could be dead because I stupidly agreed to let him get a Rottweiler puppy <---- very BAD choice.

Trust me, I take all of these posts to heart. Every post matters to me, they all have an impact on my decision. I didnt mean to make everything sound so personal, I was simply expressing how I feel about all of this. Do I think you are an irresponsible teenager? Of course not. I have never in my life seen better trained dogs than yours. You take beautiful pictures of your dogs and you can see how much you love them. You are very mature for your age, I was the opposite and that was only 2 years ago that I was 18.

Please dont take it personally, my posts reflect the way I feel about this. If you knew me personally, you would probably love to hang out. I really am a caring, loving person who makes friends with everyone I meet. I just think the message board isnt the place for me to be expressing my feelings, because my words are seen differently than how I see them. I dont mean to make people get defensive, or mad at me.

I truly am sorry if I hurt anybody, but people hurt me and that reflects on my posts. I seriously dont want anyone to take anything personally. Like I said, if I could talk to you face to face, you would see me as a whole different person.

[Vela]

Well I personally wasn't trying to be offensive and I don't think anyone else really was either, but oftentimes message boards can be hard to get points across in because we all interpret the very same words differently or perhaps out of context at different times. I do wish you the best of luck in finding a dog/puppy that fits your family and everything works out for you all and the dog.

[Crazy-Cat-Lover]

Well I personally wasn't trying to be offensive and I don't think anyone else really was either, but oftentimes message boards can be hard to get points across in because we all interpret the very same words differently or perhaps out of context at different times. I do wish you the best of luck in finding a dog/puppy that fits your family and everything works out for you all and the dog.

Vela, I didnt see anyones posts as offensive, just negative. Thank you for all your help, it really means alot to mean since you bought from a breeder. I will keep looking in shelters and maybe a lab will show up. Trust me, if a lab shows up that is a match, we will definately go and meet him. Just as long as its not the SPCA. Alot of shelters WILL adopt to me, there just isnt any labs in them currently that fit into my lifestyle.

One question... Will shelters in the US adopt to someone living in Canada? They are alot of labs in the US that need homes.

There are currently 68 labs that need homes in BC and BC is HUGE. We have 19 cities and dozens of little towns which all (excluding the ones without shelters, some only have 100 people living there) have their shelters on Petfinder. Labs are a rarity in our shelters, we see more Rottweiler and Pitbulls - most people have them for protection purposes only.

[Pembroke_Corgi]

One question... Will shelters in the US adopt to someone living in Canada? They are alot of labs in the US that need homes.

Check out this page http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/...rt/dogse.shtml

It should give you good info on bringing pets into Canada.

[Pembroke_Corgi]

This is taken from that page. Looks like you can, as long as they are properly vaccinated. (The US is not considered rabies free, so these guidelines apply):

Importation of Pet Dogs
Section 2 - Pet dogs three (3) months of age or over
from countries where rabies is present
(or not recognized officially rabies-free by Canada)
The pet import requirements outlined in this page are current as of 2006-1- 24 .


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2.1 Dogs may enter Canada if accompanied by a valid rabies vaccination certificate issued, in either English or French, by a licensed veterinarian(2), which clearly identifies the dogs and shows that they are currently vaccinated against rabies. This certificate should identify the animal, as in breed, colour, weight, etc., plus indicate the name of the licensed rabies vaccine used (trade name), serial number and duration of validity (up to 3 years). Please note that if a validity date does not appear on the certificate, then it will be considered a one year vaccine.
We do not impose a waiting period between the time the animal is vaccinated for rabies and the time the animal is imported into Canada.

2.2 If the provisions of 2.1 are not met, an inspector will order the owner to have the animals vaccinated for rabies within a period of time specified in the order and to provide the vaccination certificate to an inspector, all at the owner's expense.
Note: Rabies vaccination or certification is not required if the dogs are less than three (3) months of age.

(1) An official government veterinarian is a veterinarian who works for the government veterinary service in the country of origin.
(2) A licensed veterinarian is a veterinarian who is licensed to practice veterinary medicine in the country of origin.

[slleipnir]

If you're worried about your daughter, then I suggest an older dog that has proven well with kids. ANY dog can become aggressive if not brought up right or other reaons...I have a lab, who is very dog aggressive, and will bark at people. Maybe I did something wrong training her, or maybe it's health related. Just don't assume that because it's a lab, you will have no problems. As well, puppies WILL bite. It will not know that it cannot bite your daughter, and I can almost say for sure that a young puppy will bite. Of course, it is only playing, but it might be enough to hurt your daughter. I'm sure breeders sell older dogs?? Does it need to be a pup?

Also, because you live in an apartment, you realize all the exersize it will need? The more exersize it gets, it is likely to behave better (besides it's good for them)

Please don't think I'm saying you're doing anything wrong, or not to do something. I'm simply making suggestions trying to help. Use it, or don't.

Goodluck

[Crazy-Cat-Lover]

If you're worried about your daughter, then I suggest an older dog that has proven well with kids. ANY dog can become aggressive if not brought up right or other reaons...I have a lab, who is very dog aggressive, and will bark at people. Maybe I did something wrong training her, or maybe it's health related. Just don't assume that because it's a lab, you will have no problems. As well, puppies WILL bite. It will not know that it cannot bite your daughter, and I can almost say for sure that a young puppy will bite. Of course, it is only playing, but it might be enough to hurt your daughter. I'm sure breeders sell older dogs?? Does it need to be a pup?

Also, because you live in an apartment, you realize all the exersize it will need? The more exersize it gets, it is likely to behave better (besides it's good for them)

Please don't think I'm saying you're doing anything wrong, or not to do something. I'm simply making suggestions trying to help. Use it, or don't.

Goodluck

I would actually prefer an older puppy or retired adult. Yes, I know the dog will need lots of exercise. I will keep looking at shelters, maybe I can convince my DH to adopt one from a shelter. He is just so stuck on having a show bred lab, if you want to know why, PM me. It is a long story... I make the decisions, but my decisions have to be approved.

[Kfamr]

I am sorry, but dont you live at home with your mom and dad? I live with my common law husband, yes, husband and I am not much older than you. I am independent, I dont depend on my parents for a house, I dont have parents making the decisions. I make the decisions around here, my DH just has to agree with them. It is not my fault that he wants whats best for his daughter. She could be dead because I stupidly agreed to let him get a Rottweiler puppy <---- very BAD choice.

Trust me, I take all of these posts to heart. Every post matters to me, they all have an impact on my decision. I didnt mean to make everything sound so personal, I was simply expressing how I feel about all of this. Do I think you are an irresponsible teenager? Of course not. I have never in my life seen better trained dogs than yours. You take beautiful pictures of your dogs and you can see how much you love them. You are very mature for your age, I was the opposite and that was only 2 years ago that I was 18.

Please dont take it personally, my posts reflect the way I feel about this. If you knew me personally, you would probably love to hang out. I really am a caring, loving person who makes friends with everyone I meet. I just think the message board isnt the place for me to be expressing my feelings, because my words are seen differently than how I see them. I dont mean to make people get defensive, or mad at me.

I truly am sorry if I hurt anybody, but people hurt me and that reflects on my posts. I seriously dont want anyone to take anything personally. Like I said, if I could talk to you face to face, you would see me as a whole different person.

My living at home with my mother and father has nothing to do with anything. I pay them rent out of every paycheck, I have things I am supposed to do around the house, I cook, I clean, etc. The rest of my money goes towards my dogs. I don't depend on them, infact if I left they'd probably be in a huge hole as my salary is a large part of our bill paying money. They don't make my decisions and they've expected me to make my own decisions for years. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at mentioning all of that, however.


No one here is trying to be negative like you implied in your posts. I do believe every post so far has been out of concern, not only for you and your daughter - but the animals who are defenseless. I just don't think you're comprehending some of the intentions of these posts. No one wants you or another dog be put in the hole you were before. No one wants you to get your hopes up and then be denied for the same reasons as the shelter. Which generally responsible, reputable breeders are highly into rescue and shelter work - more than likely they will think the same way as your local shelter does.

Calling this a negative place, stating you'd be better off asking strangers off the street... That is certainly going to upset some of us who have put our hearts and beliefs into our posts, and do so everytime.

Again, this is all just my opinion again. I don't know if you're going to understand it or not, but please don't get upset or angry, like I said previously, that is not my intent.

[Crazy-Cat-Lover]

My living at home with my mother and father has nothing to do with anything. I pay them rent out of every paycheck, I have things I am supposed to do around the house, I cook, I clean, etc. The rest of my money goes towards my dogs. I don't depend on them, infact if I left they'd probably be in a huge hole as my salary is a large part of our bill paying money. They don't make my decisions and they've expected me to make my own decisions for years. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at mentioning all of that, however.


No one here is trying to be negative like you implied in your posts. I do believe every post so far has been out of concern, not only for you and your daughter - but the animals who are defenseless. I just don't think you're comprehending some of the intentions of these posts. No one wants you or another dog be put in the hole you were before. No one wants you to get your hopes up and then be denied for the same reasons as the shelter. Which generally responsible, reputable breeders are highly into rescue and shelter work - more than likely they will think the same way as your local shelter does.

Calling this a negative place, stating you'd be better off asking strangers off the street... That is certainly going to upset some of us who have put our hearts and beliefs into our posts, and do so everytime.

Again, this is all just my opinion again. I don't know if you're going to understand it or not, but please don't get upset or angry, like I said previously, that is not my intent.

I understand it much better now that you have explained it. What I should have said was "I would be better off asking breeders and rescues questions rather than asking here". Simply because I would understand it better because I would be talking face to face, not with text over the internet. I really dont look over my posts before I hit submit. I will keep that in mind from now on and will try to be clearer and less defensive next time.

Wow! I am very proud that you are such a mature teenager. I wish all teens were like you. What I was trying to say was that I no longer live with my parents and have changed dramatically since I moved. I am mature, stable and happy now. I never had responsibilites, now I have lots of them. I never got to make decisions, now I can do what. I can pay to have my dog put into obedience training and agility, I can pay to have my dog vaccinated, neutered, dewormed etc. These will all be my responsibilities. I never knew you paid for your dogs, I thought your parents did. Now that I know you pay for your dogs yourself, I will think of you totally differently. You know what its like to have responsibilities and bills. You know what its like to fork out a good portion your money on your animals - that shows that you arent like most teenagers. When I lived at home, the money I made was spent on ME. Even when I had my daughter (I was 18), I was the WORST mother to her. I didnt buy her anything.

I have learned to value life, spend money where its needed and make my own decisions in which I feel are best for me.

[Kfamr]

Since you mentioned wondering if US shelters/rescues would adopt out of country - I was searching for you.

Look at this sweetheart.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=5664790
He sounds perfect from the things you've mentioned. I'm going to do some more research and see if they adopt out of country.

[Crazy-Cat-Lover]

Since you mentioned wondering if US shelters/rescues would adopt out of country - I was searching for you.

Look at this sweetheart.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=5664790
He sounds perfect from the things you've mentioned. I'm going to do some more research and see if they adopt out of country.

Thank you so much. He sure is a cute guy! We live in Surrey and it would take 45 minutes to drive to Bellingham, WA. Do you know anything about shipping and how that works? I have only been in the US once and it was Miami.

[Kfamr]

Thank you so much. He sure is a cute guy! We live in Surrey and it would take 45 minutes to drive to Bellingham, WA. Do you know anything about shipping and how that works? I have only been in the US once and it was Miami.

I've e-mailed them about adopting to Canada. I'll let you know when I get a reply.

Here is a litter of 4 lab pups - I'm not sure how far you're willing to go if they require you to pick them up, but according to MapQuest they are 6 or so hours away.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/...?petid=5681676