Sure don't look like Weims to me. If it was part Weim why would it's litter mates be chocolate labs?
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Sure don't look like Weims to me. If it was part Weim why would it's litter mates be chocolate labs?
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Originally Posted by CagneyDog
ABSOLUTELY YES...there would still be chocolate littermates.
the pics you posted are the reason why this people bred weimaraners to labs. because they look alike so much. you need to have a trained eye to note the differences.
compare the two breeds...
this is what happens with two well reproduced breeds. you can tell the difference
but when you have two badly reproduced breeds...it's hard to say
now, let alone when they're puppies
this two breeds combined:
the so-called Silverlab!!!!!
Last edited by TORNER RETRIEVERS; 01-10-2006 at 10:20 PM.
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Well could your trained eye please point the differances out to me.the pics you posted are the reason why this people bred weimaraners to labs. because they look alike so much. you need to have a trained eye to note the differences
How so? If it's bred with a Weim, wouldn't they all be silver.
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No, of course not.
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A quote from the website where you (CagneyDog) got the picture of mom and pups:
They do not know this dog's lineage. He should have never be bred. So you can rule this breeder out as responsible.They started breeding labs after Marcie rescued their now stud dog Buddy from someone that had neglected him and tied him up on a short rope in a cement stall in a cow barn. He was 2 years old, untrained, not housebroke and on his way to the animal shelter when Marcie found him on this farm. To make a long story short, Buddy has come a long way and he and Marcie are practically inseparable.
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i just did in page 6.
it wouldn't all be silver...in fact, you could get even a black one.
...and Corgi krazy, too!
This is so frickin OT, hehe, but I really really agree with you, Sarah! My friend has an amazing field-bred chocolate Lab named Tango, and I see incredible difference between her and just about every other Lab I see (which are either show-bred or BYB-bred). She's about half the size of my other friends championed show Lab (Im sorry - he looks unnaturally obese to me.) and her temperament is much, much different. Gonzo really despises 99% of the Labs he meets, because they are just so goofy and aloof, but he loves Tango, because she's just incredibly different and is actually very alert and less all over the place. I would personally never be able to handle a show or BYB-bred Lab, because I really value attentiveness and sensitivity in a dog (my BC spoils meh) but I'd love to have a Lab with Tango's personality. Several people I know have Labs who are sweet dogs, but just do not listen to a word their owners say. Tango actually has an Obedience title, too, which is not common with show-types as far as I've seen, and she qualified in every trial she's been in.
mehhhh, anyway... Cagney, I really don't see any "proof" in those pics. Honestly, it does not matter to me if they're purebreds or not. They aren't recognized. It's certaintly possible for a chocolate Lab bred to a Weim to produce "silver Labs" and "choco Labs". I think that if this "dilution" was actually that common in the breed, it WOULD at least be recognized by now. And, dilution of chocolate does not produce silver, it produces fawn or isabella, which is technically light chocolate. Dilution of black produces "blue". The AKC is not against accepting diluted colors, which is why fawn and blue Dobermans are accepted and shown. To me, the proof isn't there so I'm going to have to say it's not legit. Especially since all of the kennel links posted are to kennels that exclusively breed for silver coloring, which is a red flag.
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Mmmmk, I'm done with this thread.
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My BYB Lab (Nova) has that temperment to a tee. Luka is pretty close, but is a little stubborn (though we are working on this). That is what a field Lab's temperment is supposed to be like. It's why I love them so much! I will get a well-bred Field Lab one day, but it will be when I live on my own and can run more trials with them. My dogs are field-bred as far as I know, judging by looks, drive (they loooove hunting), and temperment. But at the same time they don't really know what they're missing, and I can't fit frequent field trials into my life while in school, so they are fine for now
And I agree with what you just said, too!
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They can still produce correct colors. Just because it is not the right color, does not mean it is not part Weim. This is apparent in a lot of mixed breed dogs. A Weim/Vizsla cross could produce both Silver and Red dogs.
Sure don't look like Weims to me. If it was part Weim why would it's litter mates be chocolate labs?
Whether or not they look like Weims is not it. A lot of them do, some don't. My point is, we do not know if they are part Weim or not, so they should not be bred until we can rule that out. And where did you get those pictures? Does that person show their dogs? Health test? Where did the dogs come from? A reputable breeder, or a puppy mill? You can't just pull images off of google and say that they're purebreds because their mom looks like it. I know of a few dogs who look purebred when they are mixed breeds. The Weim in her could be far enough back that they still produce Silver but look more like Labs.
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