Advice from Cesar Millan

[IRescue452]

I'm still a bit skeptical about him. A lot of the training tips he gives on his show work because they are typical solutions, not because he's a miracle worker. I believe he works with the behavior problems that are annoying the owner's but doesn't say much (at least on the show where all the other dog owners are watching) about how the dog has come to develope these problems. He treats the problem but does nothing to improve the life of the dogs. I had his show on demand on cable and there are other problems with the dogs that he needs to adress on the show. Imagine an episode where a border collie is having problem barking. He adresses the barking, but not the fact that this dog's only daily exercise is to be let out into the backyard. Don't you think that this would be important to adress in front of all viewers? There was one with an obese dalmatian and food aggressive neuroticism. The lady admited she never walks the dog, it lives in the house all day. He did suggest a daily schedule with a walk as part of it, but as a viewer I could have missed that two seconds of the 23 minute show. He's got a lot to learn as a dog trainer and a person. As a sociologist in training I forsee a big fall when he realizes he isn't superman.

[pitc9]

I'm still a bit skeptical about him. A lot of the training tips he gives on his show work because they are typical solutions, not because he's a miracle worker. I believe he works with the behavior problems that are annoying the owner's but doesn't say much (at least on the show where all the other dog owners are watching) about how the dog has come to develope these problems. He treats the problem but does nothing to improve the life of the dogs. I had his show on demand on cable and there are other problems with the dogs that he needs to adress on the show. Imagine an episode where a border collie is having problem barking. He adresses the barking, but not the fact that this dog's only daily exercise is to be let out into the backyard. Don't you think that this would be important to adress in front of all viewers? There was one with an obese dalmatian and food aggressive neuroticism. The lady admited she never walks the dog, it lives in the house all day. He did suggest a daily schedule with a walk as part of it, but as a viewer I could have missed that two seconds of the 23 minute show. He's got a lot to learn as a dog trainer and a person. As a sociologist in training I forsee a big fall when he realizes he isn't superman.

In all of his shows he talks about how important walking and exercising is, he always says that one of the most important things. He always has the people walk the dogs to see how they do it, and if they are doing it right.
He always says that he's not doing anything special, he's just treating the dog like a Dog.
You respond/treat a dog like:
#1 An animal
#2 A Dog
#3 It's Breed
#4 It's Name
Just like you said "typical solutions", he trains people to train their dogs to do typical things and stop them from doing not so typical things.
He doesn't think of himself as Superman, it's the people that
he helps that do!

[lizbud]

I'm still a bit skeptical about him. A lot of the training tips he gives on his show work because they are typical solutions, not because he's a miracle worker. I believe he works with the behavior problems that are annoying the owner's but doesn't say much (at least on the show where all the other dog owners are watching) about how the dog has come to develope these problems. He treats the problem but does nothing to improve the life of the dogs. I had his show on demand on cable and there are other problems with the dogs that he needs to adress on the show. Imagine an episode where a border collie is having problem barking. He adresses the barking, but not the fact that this dog's only daily exercise is to be let out into the backyard. Don't you think that this would be important to adress in front of all viewers? There was one with an obese dalmatian and food aggressive neuroticism. The lady admited she never walks the dog, it lives in the house all day. He did suggest a daily schedule with a walk as part of it, but as a viewer I could have missed that two seconds of the 23 minute show. He's got a lot to learn as a dog trainer and a person. As a sociologist in training I forsee a big fall when he realizes he isn't superman.

I've never read a more condescending, pompous post from a non
professional dog person.While it might be interesting to know how the
dog acquired the problem behavior, it is not neccessary to correcting
the problem.

Thanks for the link Anna.

[cali]

lizbud shall I assume you are a huge fan of cesar? because there is NOTHING condecending that IRescue wrote, the one and ONLY thing she did was NOT sing the praises of a trainer that she believes is not all he is cracked up to be.

[IRescue452]

I am not saying he's a bad trainer, I'm just saying he's lacking points he should be addresing. I haven't seen this pug episode, but I'll tell you that most professionals do not support a trainer who practices "hanging" methods (as they are categorized). A spinning condition is by no means aggressive or dangerous, so you wouldn't go to this inhuman and extreme method to stop it.

[ParNone]

I watched him last night and found him quite interesting. So I decided to try out his techniques on the Collies. The goal: for less barking, especially when I'm not outside with them.

I put 12 inch leash tabs on their collars this morning, so I could control them all day. I started by making them "Sit" and "Wait" for about a minute before letting them outside. I usually make them wait at doors and don't have issues with bolting, but it's a casual wait for a few seconds and I don't usually make them do a formal "Sit" or "Down".

Everytime they started barking at something, I did that "ssstttt" sound to stop the behavior that Cesar makes, put them in a "Down" and didn't release them until they showed calm and submissive gestures. As long as they were alert and anxious, they stayed in the down. When I released them, I threw a toy for them to fetch and we'd play a lil'.

I followed through the same routine inside the house too. So we did this all day long. The transformation was amazing. This is the quietest night I can remember in a long time. They are being so calm. I took Oz to Petsmart and he's always so excited there. So many people to meet and greet. Oh my gosh, he was much calmer. He still wanted to meet everybody, but he wasn't as rambunctious trying to jump on them.

I'm going to do this all week and see if it totally solves my outside barking issue. I'll report back, with the results.

Par...

[.sarah]

I watched him last night and found him quite interesting. So I decided to try out his techniques on the Collies. The goal: for less barking, especially when I'm not outside with them.

I put 12 inch leash tabs on their collars this morning, so I could control them all day. I started by making them "Sit" and "Wait" for about a minute before letting them outside. I usually make them wait at doors and don't have issues with bolting, but it's a casual wait for a few seconds and I don't usually make them do a formal "Sit" or "Down".

Everytime they started barking at something, I did that "ssstttt" sound to stop the behavior that Cesar makes, put them in a "Down" and didn't release them until they showed calm and submissive gestures. As long as they were alert and anxious, they stayed in the down. When I released them, I threw a toy for them to fetch and we'd play a lil'.

I followed through the same routine inside the house too. So we did this all day long. The transformation was amazing. This is the quietest night I can remember in a long time. They are being so calm. I took Oz to Petsmart and he's always so excited there. So many people to meet and greet. Oh my gosh, he was much calmer. He still wanted to meet everybody, but he wasn't as rambunctious trying to jump on them.

I'm going to do this all week and see if it totally solves my outside barking issue. I'll report back, with the results.

Par...

That's really neat. I wish I had seen that episode. Nova is really bad about barking outside, and Mandy's bad about barking inside. lol. Luka is a *very* quiet dog. She just grunts every now and then, like when she changes sleeping positions

[lizbud]

A good article on Cesar Millan.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0120/p13s01-altv.html

[shihtzulover850]

I'm still a bit skeptical about him. A lot of the training tips he gives on his show work because they are typical solutions, not because he's a miracle worker.

Yes but a lot of these people he helps are inexperienced dog owneres who know nothing about the breed or dogs in general! So they do not know what the "typical solutions" are.